Dude are these all AI?! If so I can't even tell! what AI app for the photoshoot did you use??

sorry but this is a lost cause man. This girl is already seeing a guy but vaguely entertaining other options. Best thing is to keep it moving and date other girls. Don't waste your time with maybe/no girls, just move on. I know it sucks but thats the game we play. Good luck player

ah thanks yeah that's good advice. Although shes 28 and I'm 30 so theres not gonna be any '10 years from now' lmao

I live with my 'rents too man and this is how I've done it successfully. You go on date 1 and make it a banger. Walk/hiking date, or go get drinks at venue 1 and then another round at venue 2. If the date goes according to plan and you at-least make out before the end, theres a very high chance she wants date 2 to happen. The thing is I live on the main / lower level of my folks, so girls don't have to have any awkward run in's or encounters with family. I pitch the second date as movies/drinks/fun questionaire type of game and or cuddles. I also have an actually true story of how I was planning on moving out but my sublease fell thru. They walk straight in from the garage into the basement then my bedroom and then its on. Not sure what your situation is like but hopefully that will give some ideas. Trying to pull to a girls place on date 1 is gonna be extremely difficult as they don't want to come across as a slut.

dawg this is such a bad idea on so many levels as Alex stated. This is basically simping and I would know, I've been there before. This girl is all about playing games, and is already a problem as you stated shes fucked other guys from the work place. Talk to girls at the gym or online and stop pre occupying all your mental energy with 1 girl who's older than you. Go bang some 21 y/o's and you will feel validated. She is trying to train you to become addicted to her sexual attention, especially since you work together she can fuck with your head any time she wants, don't fall for it.

thanks for the feedback Alex, I appreciate a nuanced response. And yeah I get what you're saying. I was kinda just wondering what the general "mean" or middle of the road stats are for most guys. Like I want to know if it's more worth while to just resort to daygame/night game compared to the apps. I personally have been very picky about my age settings for apps and maybe that's hindering my results, as I am mostly interested in college aged girls, even tho alot of girls who swipe right on me are 25-29 range. And just because a girl is older than 22 doesn't mean she can't be as or more attractive than a girl who is younger. Also what I personally consider attractive and 'my type' could vary greatly compared to the next man.

thanks for the reply man, I'll deff think about that in the future. I waited 3 weeks after my takeaway and texted last night with a simple "hey trouble" but no response. I think it's dead in the water. I've never had a situation like this and still jarring as hell but oh well I guess. I'm 30 and banged a hot 21 y/o so atleast I know I can do it. On to the next one

I personally don't use hinge as I've never had any luck with it, although I have a friend who got a long term gf from it. I think there are more girls on tinder and bumble imo. I think the same rules apply, wait a day or two, then have something to open with again. I'm not an expert but hope that's helpful. If you get a match on hinge, is there an automatic chat/message function like on tinder? I'd just open again a day or two later on that, if so

sooo I waited 3 days to reopen with a meme and 3 more days with a take away. Is this offically dead? Still weird as hell for this girl to ghost smh

like Alex said just say you're 5'10 they can't tell a difference. Plus girls lie about all sorts of shit so its justified lmao