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A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join ā€œeventually,ā€ this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. šŸ‘‰ Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

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Most guys lose girls over text, not because they’re boring, but because they don’t know what to say next. That’s why I built FireTexts. It’s like having me in your pocket when you’re texting. For the next 48 hours, FireTexts is 25% off on all subscription tiers. Once you lock it in, that price is grandfathered for as long as you stay. Want to test it first? No problem - every plan includes a free 3-day trial. Install for free: Apple Android

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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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The woman I’m seeing is much older than me, been seeing each other for a few months now. She ends up telling me 3 weeks into the interaction that she’s ā€œmarriedā€ when we had a room booked etc, and she had already fucked me the day before as well. So I decided to dig deeper and it’s the typical long term relationship that had soured afyer a few years, they have a child though, But unofficially married. Guy ain’t fucked her in a year and they don’t live together. So I ain’t breaking up a happy home type stuff.  Anyway, I made it clear to her the situation, how she’s still technically with another guy and I’m gonna see others maybe if I want to, because she was trying to question why I want to see others, and I know she’s starting to catch feelings heavy, we have intense sexual chemistry, wild animalistic public sexual affection type stuff, raw penetration etc. I know she’s falling in love and it’s going to result in another moment of friction, we had an argument already once, because she didn’t accept my honesty that i may have a few other girls I’ll see at some point, but I ain’t seeing anybody at this moment truthfully, and she accepted my stance after a few days of no contact. she actually ended up telling her guy about us and he’s gone from not caring about her to blowing up her phone when she’s with me randomly on video calls, worrying that he’s gonna lose her. we’d be together and she gets the video call and then I gotta leave the vicinity, or she recently just ignores it. I can tell I’m the guy that she’s using as revenge in some ways.  How do I maintain this situation without it blowing up ? She’s telling me she is gonna leave the guy regardless for her own peace but that may pigeon hole me into a commitment or something if she expects to leave one for the other, which ain’t happening. Honestly, I’d have dipped if it was a legit marriage and family dynamics because I cba to mess with that headache when there’s plenty of other women out there. 

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First of all thanks Alex for putting out gold content on youtube. It has def helped me a lot and also quick shout out to fire texts app, comes very handy when sometimes I'm not super sure what to text, although I try to learn from the responses generated from it and not over use it but over here in this case, it seems more context would be required than using just the output from fire texts. Went out twice with a girl I found on hinge. Great chemistry and vibes, our second date was 2 days ago at a party, we made out a couple of times where I initiated first and then after that she kinda was more into it and wanted me to kiss even more and more which we did. Lots of physical touch, dancing, holding her waist and all. The next morning, we exchanged texts where we both shared how much we enjoyed the other night, I playfully mentioned about my naughty dream about us, not that detailed it was v surface level just trying to escalate slowly where I said something along the lines of "You showed up at my house unannounced, had to sneak you in, we did more unholy things and then had to sneak you out before my parents caught us" (I didn't randomly send this, I made sure it is sent correctly after lay-ups) And before you guys ask, why didn't I pull the same night... trust me, culturally women over here are not super DTF and besides both of us were bit drunk and about to pass out anytime. And so haven't got any reply and it's been about a day or so. So should I send "Must've left you speechless šŸ˜" or should I pull back and do takeaways?

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I can’t do right now - it’s 3am and not ideal currently in bed very tired.  She keeps saying on ā€nowā€  Might just fall asleep and message her tomorrow.  But what?

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My current strategy is very successful. Enough so, I made a account on here to bless my fellow ass clappers and help those struggling. This opener has a high response rate up there with "hey trouble" and fast track to Skip the small talk and weed out the ones just looking for validation not trying to meet up IRL. I find a girl Im into and look for her hottest pic and comment "we prob. Shouldn't get to know each other" to low-key reject her in a non-direct versatile way. My bio says "looking for someone genuine who values good conversation but also know how to handle you psycho women." I have three decent pictures and didn't put any effort into my profile but I get so many women off FB dating like fish in a barrel, haven't tried anywhere else yet. When she replies, expect a s\\\* test. whatever you do, don't qualify yourself. Copy and paste my 2nd response. 3rd msg is logistics in this convo...If needed I say "I'll tell you all about it when while we share a bottle of wine on the beach this weekend, what night work best for you?" You're welcome.

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Hi Alex and friends. I was hoping to get your thoughts on whether some of the photos I'm thinking of using for the apps are too edited or unrealistic compared to how I look IRL The first 3 photos are edited, the last 2 photos (selfie on the street and the bathroom pic) are completely raw candids I took Would girls think I look noticeably less attractive IRL on the date and feel disappointed if I use the first 3 pics? 

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I need some advice and I don’t know if here is the right place tbh, but I’ll try anyway since all the feedback I’ve had here before has been great.  I recently lost my v to an older milf a few months back, and we have insane sexual chemistry, we keep seeing each other and the dynamics are fire. The issue is, I’m experiencing the infamous can’t cum problem most guys get when they first start laying pipe, most definitely due to being not used to the v and being a ā€œhandā€ guy up until now. The good news is I do everything else right, I make her cum with my hands, intense kisses, but my penetration technique needs work, it’s hit and miss, sometimes i cant Even find her hole in time and get flaccid, and I ain’t really feeling too much stimulation by the vagina yet though it’s slowly changing, it ain’t dramatic. basically I’m doing 90% of the stuff by the book, to the point where she doesn’t even believe that it’s my first few times, but the penetration and the cumming part are something I need some fixes with, maybe it’s just a time thing? Keep at it until it falls into place? No doubt some performance anxiety plays a part.  

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Have matched with this girl a couple times. First time she responded. She's a pretty cute asian chick. What do I say lol?

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I'm moving in with family in Orange county right on the border of LA county I'll be living like 15 mins away from Fullerton which is a major college town and has a shit ton of bar life  crowd I won't have a place to pull but I have a suv I can pull to there but I wouldn't be able to pull to my house my lil sister and brother will be there what can i do in this situation this is  kinda ruining my game I want to leave but i like saving money and lofs.of chicks live with family or roommates and are hesitant to have a guy over the first night what can i do in my situations 

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New Vid: https://youtu.be/eN3djBlpOLE

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I used fire texts app an it says to say if you’re into that sort of thing but idk if that works. I was trying to tease her and move to plans but it didn’t work. I really wana take her out so I gotta figure a way to reengage. 

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