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A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join “eventually,” this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. 👉 Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

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Most guys lose girls over text, not because they’re boring, but because they don’t know what to say next. That’s why I built FireTexts. It’s like having me in your pocket when you’re texting. For the next 48 hours, FireTexts is 25% off on all subscription tiers. Once you lock it in, that price is grandfathered for as long as you stay. Want to test it first? No problem - every plan includes a free 3-day trial. Install for free: Apple Android

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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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I was hooking up at my place with a really quite DTF girl from Hinge. I fingered her then went down on her, both until she came. Then she took my pants off and gave me a handjob over my briefs. Then I pinned her and playfully choked her. At that point, she unexpectedly excused herself to the bathroom. After that, she said this isn't gonna work out and gave me some bullshit excuse like "it's not my style", then "you don't seem to know what you're doing", then left. When I asked her what make her say that, she pulled another excuse "the kissing wasn't good, too much tongue". She is big into kissing but she also used her tongue a lot, so I don't buy that.  Do you think she was real about the kissing too much tongue? Or was it the choking? I also have to say I didn't get hard, even during her handjob. Could that be the reason why? Is it possible that she thought I'm only choking her in an attempt to get hard?

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Most guys think dating apps are about what you say. That matters
 But only AFTER you get the match. This guy is 44
 and pulled: ‱⁠ ⁠300+ likes on Tinder ‱⁠ ⁠150+ likes on Hinge In 48 hours. Same apps. Same effort. Just a better profile.

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I'm like extremely lucky to have the looks, when tinder used to work i had hundred of matches, compliments, and at least 10 first date lays. I moved to Milan last may thinking tinder will work better in a big city but it's just dead now. I'm in Milan so in one of the best cities in the world to approach but approach anxiety is absolutely gonna ruin my life. If this keeps going until i lose my looks i will be fucked. I have girls staring all the time, yesterday for example i was at McDonald's, like every Friday evening there was plenty of young attractive girls that want to grab something after school. There was this group of girls staring at me, they see an attractive guy that looks like a fuck boy, with earrings, tattoo, hat, but i acted like a pussy on the inside and did not approach. They kept staring until i finished my coffee and now I'm so hurt and frustrated because i will lose my looks and get old without fun experiences to remember. What i should've have done in this situation? They were 3 girls, no free table next to them. Approach and ask one of them for ig? I feel it takes an extremely high level of courage, but at the same time i proved to myself i can do it. I approached in the past. My ig also sucks and i still don't have the money for unreal pics, so my brain uses that as an excuse. Young girls like to give ig, not the number. Same thing happens when I'm in the city center next to the cathedral, if a girl stare at me i get self conscious and can't look back at her, which is absurd because they are the best ones to approach. I also star feeling weird when I'm at the mall or walking in the city center looking for tourists or local girls, it's like i start to feel like a predator as if everybody knows what I'm looking for. I also start to think that the girl i approach will know I've been looking for girls all day. If it wasn't for all this i could approach 100 girls a day and get every week in Milan, I'm absolutely wasting and throwing away my life and it hurts. The fact that i have the looks hurts even more

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Hey fam I recently got divorced and am coming back to the game. This forum was gold before i got married so I'm excited to be back in here! I've got a lot of new pics but they haven't been tested yet, so was hoping for some feedback on which ones to choose. Thank you!

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Hey guys, wanted to make this post for anyone who was in our discord group and found themselves kicked out. Unfortunately one of our ex mods went insane and banned literally everyone. I went ahead and unbanned everyone. So, if you were in the group, or alternatively, are interested in being in the group, here is the link to join. https://discord.gg/ThvB2snx

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I was planning to get tickets to the beyond wonderland but there sold out so i work in the area where all the people attending are walking to the stadium but there all in like groups of 6+ or even like groups of 10 how would I approach big groups 

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Everything good until her last text. Initially was going to respond w something but it feels shit testy to me so I’m not tryna qualify myself here. I’m thinking of just not responding for a day or two to see if she sends a follow up text. Lmk what u guys think is a good move/response. (Oh btw I put my job as a chiropractor & “breaking your backing out” as my job location so that’s what she’s referencing)

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been a long hiatus for me. not gonna sit here and self-qualify to anybody on this forum. if you really care, go through my profile and read the posts — they speak for themselves. nothing has changed since my last post. the game is the same. the systems and processes that work will always work. this product, combined with your own experiences, reps, and persistence, will get you good at this. there’s no shortcut. but i’ll warn you — once you’re good, it never goes away. ever. if you’re struggling, that’s on you. something’s off, and you’re doing something wrong. got out of a 3-year relationship early last year. been cooling since — getting shit together, chasing a bag, hitting the gym, all that. not saying that to gas myself up. probably heading out to florianópolis, brazil soon to check it out. honestly, american girls have slowly been getting worse — no need to explain, you either get it or you don’t. if anyone’s interested in linking up and heading out to floripa too, shoot me a dm here. i’ll vet everyone first — not trying to deal with weirdos or moochers (there are plenty on this forum, unfortunately). it’s all good if we’re in different spots in life, but i need solid dudes around. ideally, a small group of three to five max, though i’m fine rolling solo too. i’ll do my best to post lr’s and share advice so you guys can keep sharpening your own game. looks like the forum’s still active, so figured i’d take a few minutes to put this together. mods, admins, or alex — if this post crosses any lines or doesn’t fit within the forum scope, let me know and i’ll take it down. shoot me a dm here first if you're interested in the brazil trip.

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What has been your own experience and your clients experiences with, doing this in the early stages of hooking up with a girl the first few times. do women consider it needy if you generally care about pleasing her because you don’t come off like a fuck boy 

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What's the best way to game up girls at a rave I live like 3 minutes away from one of the biggest rave events but I don't  have tickets to get in I might hitt up girls on the outside what's the best way to game up rave chicks on the outside leaving or  before it starts and any advice if I were to go inside what should be my game plan

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