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A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join “eventually,” this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. 👉 Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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This is my current bio. Stay persistent with girls, they find it very attractive when a guy is persistent and knows what he wants. As far as texting goes don't be too over sexual, I've found that most girls will get scared to come over if you're too sexual. I've had multiple girls tell me after we hooked up they didn't expect that out of me. I've also integrated FaceTime with most girls before we meet. *I have some LR's coming on this... They tend to seem I'm some catfish. This builds a lot of comforts and if your smooth and have a nice voice over the phone it will make the girls much more likely to see you. Plus when you're on Ft it's super easy to set plans and answer any objections she may have *get good at answering common objections girls may have. The same texting objections can be used over the phone. Also, have a life outside of the girls. Girls like a man who is busy and ambitious. Don't flaunt your money and possessions either. For my age (20) I keep my room tidy and drive and nice car etc.. Girls will constantly compliment me about this. I just say "Thanks, I try" "Ya it's just a car it doesn't really matter, all that matters is Point A to Point B" If you can casually brush these things off like it's not that big of a deal it's going to make girls like you more. Hit her up once maybe twice a week. I always make plans with the girls before they leave so were both on the same page for when they are coming over again. Plus, the vibe is good when shes over and shes much more inclined to agree to plans in person and you don't have to deal with all the leg work over text again. I work 40hrs a week and took a couple of summer classes this summer. I also tell girls I do internet marketing for my uncle's company anywhere from 10-20hrs a week and I do it sparingly in my free time. This is a little white lie It lets them know that I can be busy at any time and I can virtually blame everything on work.

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Hi everyone, Im getting a decent number of matches on hinge but noticed most girls are not responding to the first message or after a few messages exchanged. See attached for some screenshots. I'd like to know if I'm being too generic or boring, or if there girls are just low interest from the beginning. I'd appreciate if Alex sees this too. Thanks.

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I’ve met this girl once years ago, she’s a friend of my brother‘s friend. I dm’d her on insta a few months ago but it didn’t go anywhere and now I matched with her on hinge 

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So there was a MillF walking in with her daughter inside one of the plazas that I guard so I'm waiting outside in the security car and I see sexy chick walking with huge fake BBL booty and  huge fake titties and I'm like damn I'm going to wait for her to come out so like a stalker I wait for her like 30 minutes she finally comes out I like save my little stupid line like a I'm  actually looking for a girl that stole something and I'd like to describe her and she's like I have a receipt right here so you can't blame me but she had like a good attitude I could tell  she was a good vibe and right away I was like hey do you do you drink Margaritas stuff like that she was like yeah you got some what do you got and laughing and I was like saying well  I want to talk to you stay cuz she was like kind of walking away a little bit and she's like okay so she walks up to my security guard and I said well I want to take you out sometime  whenever you're free I know you're with your daughter and stuff and she's like smiling the whole time like I do have a boyfriend and she's like smiling and she's and then I was like  okay well you have a good one I kind of cut it from there I didn't say anything more usually when a girl has like a boyfriend I just don't even like keep trying and she just like  smiled and like waved like so sexually to me like our eyes like locked you could tell like it was on but it's cool like when you approach a girl that's a nine plus they're so nice like they you  could tell she wanted to be approached she was wearing like tight leggings where you can straight see her thong see through with her big BBL booty and big old fake titties I barely  covering her tits with like a black see through blouse looking thing but she was super hot it was one of the approaches good approaches that I did and right after I'll talk to two  chicks that were actually going to like a rave slash club in LA but they're like no like pretty much they didn't want to talk to me probably because they thought I was a narc cuz I'm in my  security car I would have said that I had Coke or something they probably would have been down but they look like they were coke heads for sure but overall approaching the most  attractive girls gives you the confidence to basically approach any any girl throughout the day so that's the biggest thing that I need to do is like anytime I see extremely attractive girl I have to approach because it just makes it easier funny

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At my job I do security in a patrol vehicle in a Plaza at a grocery store and at a Ross there is quite a few of chicks that come in to the stores but not many are attractive but  sometimes I do see an attractive girl but she's always with a friend parents or a baby for kids what's the best way I can approach because I only have like a few seconds once they leave the store or before they go into the store I can't really  like go in there in the location because it'll make it obvious that I'm in there to get at chicks I can at the grocery store they're a little bit more lenient and they don't mind me going in  once in awhile if I do send attractive girl I have done that but I don't want to make it a habit the best time to really approach any girl is literally with the security car so I kind of pull up  when they're about to leave or before they're about to go in the store and I say hey I wanted to meet you my name is Isaac this and that and I try to build rapport as much as I can  joke around I used to say oh I'm actually looking for this girl she stole some stuff and and I would describe the same outfit of clothes that they were wearing and they would just like  laugh like oh my God and I would build a little bit of answer that way and I would actually get quite a few numbers from that my meet up rate from just security patrols and getting  numbers is about 15% so out of 60 numbers that I got I met up with like 9 girls and I closed 6 what is the best way for me to approach in this situation and what should I say

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I accumulated a lot of numbers over the years alreast 3k now and I was wondering how can I revive the numbers to try to revamp a meet up etc what's the best texts to send some will  be like pissed bevause they have a bf some are cool about it but think your a psycho for saving there number for so long not sure what i can do but i know i can squeeze out more closes from it 

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If you ever find yourself staring at your phone, wondering what to say next
 you're not alone. Most conversations die because people run out of things to say. The easiest fix is asking better questions - ones that spark emotion or discussion instead of boring yes/no replies. Here are some that work really well: 1) Are you from here originally? This sounds super simple, but it works surprisingly well. Women generally love talking about their heritage. Most weren’t born where they are currently living, so there is a story there. But even if she is from there, you can follow it up by saying “ah wow, a local, you guys are rare ;)” 2) How’s your day going? Sounds super boring, but all girls enjoy talking about their day. And most importantly, it leads to her asking about your day. This is good, because it allows you to use one of the best texts ever: “I’m good, just finished a big workout, looking nice & fit for our date” 3) What are you looking for on here? This works especially well if you have a somewhat sexual profile. That increases the chance of the girl feeling comfortable enough to share the real answer, instead of the politically correct one she usually defers to. In addition, she will almost always add a “hbu?” to the end of her answer. A good response is “To meet a cool girl I have chemistry with. Perhaps some kinky sex & cuddles”. One heads up, though, this primarily only works in North America and Western Europe. In Latin America or Asia, the default response will always be “friends.” 4) What is the most spontaneous thing you’ve ever done? This is good because it can trigger a very flirty conversation. If she gives you a boring answer, you can tease her and say, “Ah, you can do better than that ;)” And she will almost certainly ask you the same question back. This is a good opportunity to set a sexual frame. For example, “Does having sex on the beach and getting cockblocked by a fat security guard count?” You are adding humor to make it more socially acceptable. And best of all, this is going to make her feel comfortable enough sharing her sexual stories. 5) Do you like wine? This is a two-part text. The majority of girls will respond with some variation of yes. This then allows you to follow up with “Good, we should split a bottle sometime soon”. This is actually the most optimal way to set up a date. You are creating a compliance ladder, which leads to a higher likelihood of a yes. \*\*for more details, along with other good questions, read the full guide below\*\* https://firetexts.com/questions-to-ask-a-girl-over-text/

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Hey I created some AI pics, here are a bunch of them added to some real pictures. I have to chose 5-6 of them for tinder and hinge, any advice ?Especially on which one to put as first ? Thanks ! ​

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Quick number close from a rather brief cold approach interaction. After the opening line, she couldn’t completely recall the extent of the conversation possibly because the interaction was rather short as well as how she was in a hurry. What’s the best response to this without being needy while maintaining value? Would you say it’s best to avoid something overly logical?

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Hey Alex, guys, Need a quick breakdown of my situation. The Date: Things went great. We escalated to make-outs very quickly and she was super receptive. When I went for the pull/sex, she gave me some resistance (classic ASD). She explicitly said she didn't want it to be a one-night stand with me. She also confessed her pattern: in the past, if she slept with a guy on the first date, she would dump him first just to avoid getting dumped. Eventually, the sexual tension was too high and we had sex (gave her 3 orgasms). The Texts: I sent her a quick text right after she left at night. The next day around 1 PM, I texted her to set up a second date. We texted a bit, but at some point, she just stopped replying. (WhatsApp screenshot attached below) My thoughts: I'm wondering if I over-sexualized my texts the day after the date. Since she mentioned wanting something more serious, I might have triggered her buyer's remorse and she pegged me as a fuckboy. My Gameplan: During the date, she mentioned that her absolute dream date is a guy taking her to the theater (complaining that guys don't do that anymore). I want to send her a low-pressure ping after 7 days of no contact to reset the vibe and show that I actually listened to her. I'm thinking of sending this: "Hey, I was walking by the theater today and remembered our conversation. Hope your week is going well." What do you think? Did I over-sexualize the texts, and is this ping a good way to handle her ASD?

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