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Quick heads-up (important if you’ve been on the fence)

A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join “eventually,” this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. 👉 Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

Announcement

3mo ago

avilench .

399 Posts (+1.3K)

16K Cmts (+5.3K)

avilench .

399 Posts (+1.3K), 16K Cmts (+5.3K)

It’s Like Having 24/7 Access To Me

Most guys lose girls over text, not because they’re boring, but because they don’t know what to say next. That’s why I built FireTexts. It’s like having me in your pocket when you’re texting. For the next 48 hours, FireTexts is 25% off on all subscription tiers. Once you lock it in, that price is grandfathered for as long as you stay. Want to test it first? No problem - every plan includes a free 3-day trial. Install for free: Apple Android

Announcement

4mo ago

avilench .

399 Posts (+1.3K)

16K Cmts (+5.3K)

avilench .

399 Posts (+1.3K), 16K Cmts (+5.3K)

Success stories

Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

Lay Report

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52 Comments

52 Cmts

6y ago

IV 23

11 Posts (+46)

25 Cmts (+1)

IV 23

11 Posts (+46), 25 Cmts (+1)

30s and no friends

yea....im just getting older and my life is really boring. i cant seem to build a friend group or to even have 1 real friend. how do you donthis at this age? i not hanging out with any loser to get high im too old for that so what do i do at this age? how do i build relationship that are meaningful? im truly trying to change and i need help from u guys like what do i do?  no im in my 30s and have my own property good career and my mind right and no drug but will party lol but i dont even know how tonget in sence without looking like an old guy. tbh i think i have social anxiety but when comfortable im fine. so im hoping maybe if you guys know a therapist or something maybe hypnotherapist, I don't know what do you guys do?

Question

1 Comment

1 Cmt

18h ago

Michael A Allen

1 Post (+0)

0 Cmts (+0)

Michael A Allen

1 Post (+0), 0 Cmts (+0)

How to deal with this girl

Have matched with this girl a couple times. First time she responded. She's a pretty cute asian chick. What do I say lol?

Question

1 Comment

1 Cmt

6h ago

A B

12 Posts (+1)

15 Cmts (+1)

A B

12 Posts (+1), 15 Cmts (+1)

Did she lose interest? She agreed to the second date but is cold on reply time after 1st date

So my main concern of this would be, is a second date still possible? So I matched with this girl on hinge a few weeks ago, early 20s. I got her IG off the app pretty quickly and it was just basic tamed flirting, I didn't wanna do too much early as she was LTR oriented on her profile . The screenshots are me setting up a pool date the week after we matched and our text exchanges afterward. She seems compliant there and we have the date, it goes well, we have some drinks, play a couple games of pool, banter and flirt a little. We go to a bar across the street, on the way there we makeout a bit. The date continues there, we talk more, etc. After that we go outside, it's a weeknight so we decided to call it there. We makeout again at the end of the night, and she seems compliant with it. I don't close because I have bad logistics and the timing wasn't the best. Although, I don't get to the point of no return since we didn't almost hookup. We still exchange texts even a week and a half after the date and she said shes 'so down' for a second date, but I notice her slow fading and responding less. She recently unmatched me on hinge (although our hinge convo was in the hidden section and inactive for weeks after I got her IG) and I'm not sure whether that was to clean up her feed or get rid of me, she does still follow me on IG though. My bad for the essay

Question

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1 Cmt

6h ago *

Haris O

13 Posts (+0)

9 Cmts (+1)

Haris O

13 Posts (+0), 9 Cmts (+1)

King68the great game

Hey Alex I wish you made more videos talking about King 68 the Great he's like a famous YouTuber influencer where he's just super super tall he's almost like 7 ft and basically gets girls  Based on his height he has like decent verbals but it's nothing crazy would you ever do like a video talking about him and why certain things will work for him and turn things wouldn't  The reason why is cuz a lot of guys think that just because you're not 68 and he's like a male model or whatever tatted black guy people think like oh there's no hope  Could you make a video on that guy would be pretty cool to see someone talk about him in the pickup community which nobody talks about I feel like because they're afraid if  someone doesn't know about game has decent looks and decent variables it'll make pickup look bad but I don't think so in my opinion

Question

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3 Cmts

3d ago

Issac Indigo

16 Posts (+0)

19 Cmts (+1)

Issac Indigo

16 Posts (+0), 19 Cmts (+1)

Help for a comeback

Hey guys.  i recently broke up with my gf. I wanted to come back to dating apps and dating in general.  My question is, where should i start again? Which youtube videos can i start watching? And Which articles can i read? For a beginner. I wasn’t that good back then but i want to take this seriously now. 

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2 Cmts

2d ago

Iker Alfa

8 Posts (+3)

10 Cmts (+2)

Iker Alfa

8 Posts (+3), 10 Cmts (+2)

LR: Busty AF, Cute 23 Year OId

With a lot of help from Indian PE and some from Alex V too. This girl was obviously pretty interested from the beginning. This is a pretty straightforward LR, but worth studying just to see how solid banter can help drive a quick and successful close. As for the actual date, she was quite cute. Escalation was pretty straightforward. She turned out to be a huge stoner, bringing weed and a bowl with her. She was already fairly high when she arrived. We chatted for a bit, smoked a bowl, and then I started escalating. No LMR, of course, as that was all handled in the texting exchange. The real fun though were her perfect 34DDD's. I've been on a pretty lengthy kick with girls with smaller boobs, so this was a nice surprise (expected just average ones based on her Tinder pics). We ended up banging twice. Unfortunately, the sex itself was pretty vanilla, nothing too exciting to write about there.

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4 Comments

4 Cmts

7y ago

Aaron Johnson

10 Posts (+141)

139 Cmts (+107)

Aaron Johnson

10 Posts (+141), 139 Cmts (+107)

Help with Calling out

Context: There's a girl I met on tinder. She's really hot and tells me she loves it when i chase her. I framed it as me being a guy who goes after what he wants. BUt it seems like this is all she wants she's always too "busy" (sitting at home (she leaves her snapmaps on)) to hang out and responds once a day. She constantly compliments me. She loves my sexts and she calls me hot and cute if it matters. Question: I want to call this girl out on her bs but I can't figure out how to do it in a non-butthurt way. Can anyone help me here please

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2 Cmts

7y ago *

Luke Foster

4 Posts (+12)

13 Cmts (+3)

Luke Foster

4 Posts (+12), 13 Cmts (+3)

Stuck here

Unsure if this is sarcastic but I think it probably is she is mentioning meeting up but obviously the whole sniff thing is pretty tongue in cheek (uk sarcasm style)

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5d ago *

J C

4 Posts (+0)

8 Cmts (+1)

J C

4 Posts (+0), 8 Cmts (+1)

What should I do if girl wants to change venues

So long story short I had a plan to meet up with the girl that I met during day game she's a real stage and makes a lot of money and all this stuff and I told her let's grab drinks we'll  grab a margarita she agreed to it that was probably about a week ago maybe 6 7 days ago and now right before we're about to go meet up she's like I'm not in the mood to go  drinking and I told her how about you have a Shirley Temple which is just like a soda type of drink and then she's like asking oh do they serve food this and that and I kind of told her like yeah they serve food but I'm not switching up plans  now when you could have told me a long time ago about that this is literally like an hour before we're supposed to meet up just trying to switch phones and I stuck to my guns and told her like look this is what I want to do I think they have food  there but we're going to go get drinks so don't be acting brand new LOL and that was kind of like the gist of my text so did I do good job what should I do better in the situation when girls trying to switch out cuz this happened already like a couple times in the past week already with two different girls

Advice

12 Comments

12 Cmts

16d ago

Issac Indigo

16 Posts (+0)

19 Cmts (+1)

Issac Indigo

16 Posts (+0), 19 Cmts (+1)

Help with text

I sent her a dm. we spoke, she gave me her number. i asked her about saturday night and she said yes as seen in the mssgs. It has been a day and she has not responded. What should i say next and when? help @avilench

Texting

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5d ago *

David S

4 Posts (+0)

1 Cmt (+0)

David S

4 Posts (+0), 1 Cmt (+0)