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A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join “eventually,” this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. 👉 Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

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Most guys lose girls over text, not because they’re boring, but because they don’t know what to say next. That’s why I built FireTexts. It’s like having me in your pocket when you’re texting. For the next 48 hours, FireTexts is 25% off on all subscription tiers. Once you lock it in, that price is grandfathered for as long as you stay. Want to test it first? No problem - every plan includes a free 3-day trial. Install for free: Apple Android

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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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View image attatched. I want on a date with this girl but didn’t have sex because she said she had a presentation the next day (we’re uni students). She then sent me those texts after the date. The next day in the afternoon I sent her a message saying how was the presentation and she gave me a dead reply “it was good thank you”. does she want to see me again? What should I reply?

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Pickup has helped a lot of men. But some of the most common advice floating around will absolutely mess you up if you follow it blindly. Not because pickup is fake. But because certain ideas get misinterpreted
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 and taken way too far. Here are 4 pieces of pickup advice that will mess you up if you follow them blindly. 1) “Never Catch Feelings.” You hear this constantly: “Don’t catch feelings.” “Stay detached.” “Care less than she does.” There’s truth here. You shouldn’t over-invest too early or when it’s not reciprocated. But if you NEVER allow yourself to develop feelings, you’ll never build a healthy relationship. There’s a difference between emotional control and emotional avoidance. It is absolutely okay to develop feelings for a girl who reciprocates them and has earned your affection. The real rule is this: Don’t fall for the wrong girl. Screen for qualities that make a good girlfriend (like loyalty and honesty). You have to proceed cautiously, rather than never proceed at all 2) “If Your Game Is Good Enough, You Can Make It Work With Any Girl” This sounds empowering on the surface. But it’s largely an ego-driven fantasy. Even the best coaches in the world cannot make it work with most of the girls they talk to. A lot of girls have boyfriends, and contrary to what you might have heard, most of them are not willing to cheat with a stranger. Also, compatibility matters. Timing matters. Her situation matters. Most importantly, though, you shouldn’t be trying to make it work with every girl. Just like good salespeople don’t try to sell to everyone. Same thing here, a much better strategy is to filter out all the girls who are not compatible with you and what you want. Remember, there are almost infinite girls out there for you to talk to, but your time is very much finite 3) “Take Massive Action.” RSD used to say this all the time. And yes - volume helps. The problem is that most guys take the wrong kind of action and either get burned out or never improve. Because Incorrect action just reinforces bad habits. So, rather than use all your free time mass approaching girls, you are better off spending an hour or two of concentrated effort and then seeking feedback to make sure you’re constantly correcting your mistakes . Here’s a massive pro tip: turn on your phone's audio recorder next time you do a cold approach. You will learn A LOT just listening back to your approaches. 4) “Looks Don’t Matter” We once again turn to RSD for spreading this nonsense. Of course, looks matter. Better-looking guys have an easier time getting in the door. They also have a higher margin for error due to “pretty privilege.” The mistake some in the pickup space made was pretending that looks don’t matter. The mistake Blackpill made was pretending that looks are everything. The truth is in the middle. I was objectively better-looking in college. Yet my results were significantly worse. Because I had zero game. Here’s the real advice, maximize what you can control. Get in shape. Dress well. Groom properly. Then stop obsessing over things you can’t control, like your height or gonial angle. \*\*Full Article With Examples Below\*\* https://www.playingfire.com/dating-mistakes-men-make/

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Hey I was wondering how I can pull a check from one of those segx sites like 📄 đŸ•·ïž 

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Finally back on here since 5 years was on JAL discord but he blocked me because I owe $50 on his chatgpt dude is a weirdo but I feel there more pick up in here who's in Orange county ca area I'm down to meet up sometime always looking for new wings I'm at 160+ lays and I have a gf using alexis' stuff and JAL stuff best guys in the game 

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What's the best way to pull at a rave should I just focus on collecting numbers for a later meet up should I pull and say I have a after party of should I just pull to the house I'm sure chicks are down if you talk about party favors works when I say let's go smoke at my place when I pull 

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I matched with a woman on Hinge about a month ago. We’ve been texting consistently and she originally suggested meeting, but at the time I was busy and couldn’t. Since then, it’s been a lot of “let’s talk soon,” “maybe call,” “I’m sick,” “I’m too busy,” “I got COVID,” etc. Lots of maybes and delays. I’ve tried pulling back and saying things like: “Let me know when you’re free and we can meet.” But she keeps texting without actually committing. She did show interest early on, so part of me thinks she wants to meet, but another part feels like I’m stuck in texting limbo. At this point I’m losing interest, but I’d like to handle this cleanly and confidently. What’s the best move here? One final clear invite? Or just stop engaging? If one last message makes sense, what would you recommend?

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Hey guys hope you’re rocking the game. first time in the forum by the way, lots of rich information going on here!  Anyways, I need some perspective on a Tinder convo. We matched, and the first 4 messages went back and forth quickly. The she didn’t reply, so the next evening (yesterdayat around 9PM I sent a playful flirty message. Today, almost at midnight, she just liked that message but didn’t actually reply.  What’s the best way to handle this now? Should I wait, send a follow-up, or just leave it? I want to keep it confident and non-needy. Thanks in advance,  Toni 

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I’ve been generating photos with unreal AI and I found that if you create Images from the models or most liked pictures it’s very difficult to generate images that look real or that would actually look like you.  By experimenting I discovered that if you have pictures of you either looking very good but taken from a time when you looked a bit younger or pictures with good composure but where your facial expression looks a bit off, then they are very good candidates to be used as a base for generating new images.  I started generating images by using the custom feature and choosing a picture of me as the base. I was mostly using the following prompts “make model more muscular”( when I was using photos of my skynnier self), ”fix model’s expression”. In the “How much should the photos look like the reference?” I was choosing between 8 and 10 out of 10 To help you judge the quality of this feature I included the following pics. All pics were generated with the custom feature except the two last that where pics were taken with my phone’s camera (shirtless pic with the pink shorts and the bathroom selfie where I have a beard) 

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Matched this girl on hinge, started really well she was into it, got her number moved into plans, she rainchecked on our date and told me earlier that week she was guna be busy and then out of town till feb 10th, hit her up a few days ago, responded quickly, i go for plans again then she dont respond. she has put effort into all of her texts so kinda confusing.  idk if should call her out with a are you shy? tell her if shes nervous about meeting me we can hop on a call and see how we vibe, or be honest tell her she confusing... or just move on... thoughts?

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I don't wanna do a dinner date ideally, but she also doesn't wanna drink it seems. How to proceed?

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