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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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Does anyone here use the tinder prompts? Are they that important or should I just focus on my pics and bio

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Quick number close from a rather brief cold approach interaction. After the opening line, she couldn’t completely recall the extent of the conversation possibly because the interaction was rather short as well as how she was in a hurry. What’s the best response to this without being needy while maintaining value? Would you say it’s best to avoid something overly logical?

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Met this girl by the dj stand at a party. we were talking for maybe 10-15 min, dancing for another 15 min. She gave me her number and told me to text her. It has been a day and a half. She told me at the party she is free thursday night. should I double text it? when? what do i say? help @avilench

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Just got into Raya few days ago. Can I still use the classic PWF bio on there? Specifically: "6'0 | \[city] My passion is traveling the world and whispering \[language] in your ear. Strengths: dominant, grilling steak, expert cuddler Weaknesses: nice smiles, intelligence"

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I have a date set up for tonight and it's one of the first dates I'll have for 2026 the girl is a freaky white chick that has the only fans so I know I could easily clap but I want to make sure that it's a for sure like close so she sees my Instagram I do podcasts and s\\\* like that and I'm not famous but my Instagram is kind of shows that I am like a professional type of Instagram I guess and I always do podcasts of different people and she's pretty hot she's a freak like she always shows like her body in a sexual way all the time and my thongs and s\\\* and I've been hitting her up a lot all the time and she finally like gave me her number and I told her we should grab drinks tonight she said she's down after I get off of work what's a good way to make sure for sure that she's down to like smash tonight

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In Jan 2026 she responded to an old story response I had sent in July 2025, then I tried continuing the convo on IG. Decided to just text her even though the last texts were wack, since she has 200k followers and figured she just missed it.  Thinking of following up on Thursday night with "sounds good? if not when are you free".  She takes a while to respond though, so I'm not sure if she's just waiting or something. I also know that she's been hanging out with some other dude since my friend saw them making out last weekend, if that makes a difference. Pretty sure that just means I should have texted her sooner in Jan like I was thinking. Lmk if my plan sounds good or what you'd send instead.

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I'm looking for a ai service where is the best most natural one recommended where I can sign up or pay for it would help thanks 

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Yo guys, wanted to post another lr where I think there is a lot of value in the screenshots. This one was two months in the making. Lots of good banter in the beginning and reingaging & brattiness as the convo continues. Definitely lots of value in the screenshots. Also, good example of what do when she doesn’t drink The date itself was quite straightforward. Went for a 20 min walk. Pulled back to my place. And then just smooth progressive escalation. Epic sex

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referring to this vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v\=ha4HMr1HCyE**  commenting here since a bit lengthy + need to avoid digital footprint due to work  Generally** agree with it, known most of those points but just great restatement and articulation of em  but some thoughts :  1\. On investment - Again agree here, sometimes when i softclose/ float the idea of a date right away (ex. we match, she asks how are you, and i immediately drop the 'good just worked out looking guapo for our date' within just 1-2 exchanges) i get left on seen (but sometimes it also works quite well, ig depends really on the girl). so lately im trying to stretch banter a bit. my only concern is if sometimes a girl's a timewaster like you text/talk a while, then when you finally escalate to meeting up she disappears. so it feels like a pull between being patient to get a girl to invest on the one hand vs. hard screening for validation-seekers on the other 2\. on sexual tension / socially risky behaviour / risking rejection - i am usually very touchy and girls usually even comment i'm "aggressive", problem is i usually tend to freeze up/hesitate when the girl is hotter (or even if externally i try and even succeed to stay calm & playful or at least "normal", internally i feel the anxiety and it perhaps still affects my presence and sexuality) and therefore subconsciously revert to safer behaviour  case in point : last night, was with a girl i wasn't really hot about (in fact it also showed in our texting, i'd leave her on seen for long stretches and only replied lazily when i wanted). literally the second she showed up, i was already touching her, squeezing her waist, kissed her right away. was shamelessly hugging & flirting with her the whole time & we were making out in the bar & really didn't care if she rejected me. invited her upstairs to my place and it was only then that she put on the brakes and we agreed a second date (and i can honestly say idgaf really if she flakes)  at another extreme, was introduced by friends to a hot foreign model during a night out (i posted recently about this here). so while i was externally calm/playful, internally i got intimidated, a bit taller than me too so my short guy syndrome (5'7) didnt help either. so for example i'd make small passes at touches, which she didnt really reject, but i didn't escalate on them either ofc as alex said it's possible maybe she wasn't that interested or attracted to begin with, but i'd never know for sure if i just didn't say fuck my ego and put my balls on the line like i did with the first girl. to sum up i think outcome independence/idgaf really helps, just that the hotter the girl the less idgaf i get  also i tend to be more aggressive/flirty when i meet a girl from online or if it's a 1 on 1 setting (as opposed to social circle game or in a crowd)  3\. *On point of no return -* very rare but i've had experiences of hooking up on the first night and the girl would still ghost/flake on the second date (but i can attribute some of these to giving em bad sex lol)  but sometimes it feels like a fine line between being persistent and pushy. like in the video with the girl talking about sexual assault, like how do you even try to push after that story lol. in my experience, sometimes when the girl's lying in bed and says we won't have sex and will physically manifest it too like she'd stop my hands or push them away or even sternly tell me off. but then i'd just try not to get reactive/butthurt, and instead also say yea we won't have sex i hate it while continuing to kiss her and escalate again. rinse and repeat. and honestly, sometimes in the end the girl gets worked up herself, sometimes the girl truly exercises control lol and nothing happens

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Should I get seeking ?? Is it worth the money I remember it was only one hundred a month it's on hundred fifty a month now I don't have my  place so I'm gonna try to do meet ups at chicks houses or get a hotel if I can but lemmi know guys if it's worth the monthly  cost I stay in the outskirts of LA so there's a lot of chicks on there to choose from 

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