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A lot of people don’t realize this, but when you join our program, you also get access to a private Mastermind I run alongside the course. It’s an ongoing, members-only environment where you’re not guessing or going it alone. Inside the mastermind, you get: Direct help from me every single day (texts, profiles, dates, real situations) Weekly live Group Zoom calls with me A high-level community where experienced guys actively help newer members (people end up networking, becoming wingmen, and even real friends) Most guys come in for the information. They stay because they finally have feedback, accountability, and momentum. (The mastermind is available to PWF course members, and your first month is free) Important update: On February 12th, the mastermind price is going up from $49/month → $69/month for new members. If you join before then, you’re grandfathered in at $49/month for life (as long as you stay a member). The reason for the increase is simple: the mastermind has grown quickly, and because I’m personally involved every day, I need to cap bandwidth and keep the quality high. If you’ve been planning to join ā€œeventually,ā€ this is one of those moments where waiting actually costs you. šŸ‘‰ Details / enrollment link below www.playingfire.com/sale

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Most guys lose girls over text, not because they’re boring, but because they don’t know what to say next. That’s why I built FireTexts. It’s like having me in your pocket when you’re texting. For the next 48 hours, FireTexts is 25% off on all subscription tiers. Once you lock it in, that price is grandfathered for as long as you stay. Want to test it first? No problem - every plan includes a free 3-day trial. Install for free: Apple Android

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Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!

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Was looking to get some feedback on my tinder profile. I tried a variation of this profile that excluded some photos but only got a couple of likes. Haven't gotten a single match. I made this profile yesterday afternoon. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. https://tinder.com/@immulate

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How do I get past a rejection depression phase where you get rejected so many times and you question your abilities, stop talking to girls, put in less effort, wondering if you can even get a girl or something wrong with me. I go to the gym got a career going have a good style, people know me but I don’t have many friends, I go out by myself most times. I don’t go to nightclubs or bars, best way to meet women for me is in the gym or just going about my day. put dating apps aside for a bit have not gotten on one date in my whole life, only phone numbers.

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How do I get past a rejection depression phase where you get rejected so many times and you question your abilities, stop talking to girls, put in less effort, wondering if you can even get a girl or something wrong with me. I go to the gym got a career going have a good style, people know me but I don’t have many friends, I go out by myself most times. I don’t go to nightclubs or bars, best way to meet women for me is in the gym or just going about my day. put dating apps aside for a bit have not gotten on one date in my whole life, only phone numbers.

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Thanks in advance for reading this. Two weeks ago, I ran into a girl who I made out with a few years ago. It was her and her friend and then me, my friend, and his girlfriend. She invited us over to her house around the corner from the bar. We all drank more and her and we made out a couple times (she initiated the first time) and then she stopped it and told me that we need to go on a date before anything else happens. Maybe I didn’t build enough attraction or she genuinely isn’t the type of girl to drunkenly hook up on the first date, who knows. This was on Saturday, 04/25 I reached out the next day (Sunday, 04/26) and sent her a cute pic we took followed by Me: \cute pic\ Great running into ya last night. Let’s go off-roading up to a sweet spot I know of on Wednesday.  Her: Great to see you too. My grandparents are in town for my brothers graduation this week so I think I’m spending a lot of time with them and doing dinner Wednesday at my dads Me: No worries. I leave town for a work trip on May 8th. Sounds like it’ll be easier to make it happen the week before I leave. Let’s shoot for that? Her: Yes that would be better my grandparents leave after this weekĀ  Her: Did you stay in the guest room last night? Me: I ubered back home. Nothing like waking up in your own bed Her: That’s so fair it is nice to be in your own bedĀ  I reach out 4 days later (Thursday, 04/30) to try and make plans.  Me: Let’s get something on the calendar for next week. How does \[restaurant] on Monday evening sound? I wait 3 days (Saturday, 05/02) and hit her with this Me: Don’t think too hard now And here’s where I may have screwed up. Another 3 days later (Tuesday, 05/05), I reached out with this.  Me: Hope ya survived the crazy week with the grandparents in town/graduation I was originally going to use the takeaway ā€œI honestly didn’t take you for the flakey typeā€ instead of the last message I ended up going with, but it felt like it could land too harsh and come off inconsiderate of her grandparents in town and family graduating. I am not sure if that was correct or not. At this point, I am 3 messages deep without a reply and I am unsure if there’s still a shot. This girl is very much my type. I’d love your input on if this is salvageable or if I’d just look like a gaylord for sending a 4th. There’s also a decent chance I’ll run into her out on the town since we go to similar bars. Should I send one last message. Maybe some takeaway? If so, when should I and what should I say?

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I'm you too La county/ocounty I'm very close to like Fullerton while I'm on the border of LA and OC I'm really new I just came here for about a week  Not really sure about the nightlife at all I'm looking to do some big game in the mall but wanted to know the biggest clubs in LA or OC because I have two days off per week  And would like some recommendations for any places to get the most amount of numbers in night game 

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Yo guys, I wanted to post this one because I think it really shows you how you can be extremely persistent without being needy. In the screenshots, she drops off numerous times and tells me she’s not interested in several occasions as well, but I push past it at all The date was actually super smooth. We drank. Laughed. And hooked up. Afterwards, she told me that she really has only met two other people from dating apps in her whole life, but she was impressed with my extreme persistence so she decided to meet me as well Hopefully, you guys find this valuable. Aside from persistence, I think the screenshots demonstrate how to draw a girl into your life, smoothly sexualize, and pass shit tests. Enjoy

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I can’t do right now - it’s 3am and not ideal currently in bed very tired.  She keeps saying on ā€nowā€  Might just fall asleep and message her tomorrow.  But what?

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The conversation starts with the last pic.  I didn't want to double text so I let the idea of Friday go. Definitely want to be persistent with this one but need advice on how to re-engage. She's 40.

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Approached a girl on the street yesterday. Opened direct, good vibe overall, got her number after she first offered Snapchat/Instagram. She replied positively to my first text (ā€œoh heyyā€) but ignored my follow-up question. Next day I texted: ā€œif you're down, we could meet this week ā€ She replied: ā€œlet’s seeā€ I responded: ā€œI’m free Fri or Sat, what works for you?ā€ Now waiting. Main thing I’m wondering: In situations like this, do you keep things light and keep texting a bit before trying to set logistics again, or just leave it after one clear invite? Also curious how you guys interpret ā€œlet’s seeā€ from cold approach numbers.

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The woman I’m seeing is much older than me, been seeing each other for a few months now. She ends up telling me 3 weeks into the interaction that she’s ā€œmarriedā€ when we had a room booked etc, and she had already fucked me the day before as well. So I decided to dig deeper and it’s the typical long term relationship that had soured afyer a few years, they have a child though, But unofficially married. Guy ain’t fucked her in a year and they don’t live together. So I ain’t breaking up a happy home type stuff.  Anyway, I made it clear to her the situation, how she’s still technically with another guy and I’m gonna see others maybe if I want to, because she was trying to question why I want to see others, and I know she’s starting to catch feelings heavy, we have intense sexual chemistry, wild animalistic public sexual affection type stuff, raw penetration etc. I know she’s falling in love and it’s going to result in another moment of friction, we had an argument already once, because she didn’t accept my honesty that i may have a few other girls I’ll see at some point, but I ain’t seeing anybody at this moment truthfully, and she accepted my stance after a few days of no contact. she actually ended up telling her guy about us and he’s gone from not caring about her to blowing up her phone when she’s with me randomly on video calls, worrying that he’s gonna lose her. we’d be together and she gets the video call and then I gotta leave the vicinity, or she recently just ignores it. I can tell I’m the guy that she’s using as revenge in some ways.  How do I maintain this situation without it blowing up ? She’s telling me she is gonna leave the guy regardless for her own peace but that may pigeon hole me into a commitment or something if she expects to leave one for the other, which ain’t happening. Honestly, I’d have dipped if it was a legit marriage and family dynamics because I cba to mess with that headache when there’s plenty of other women out there. 

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