I know that most of the older guys here are against using Snapchat to get with girls, but I actually think that it's an underrated tool that offers a lot of benefits when compared to other means of communication. For one, Snapchat is way more fun to use than traditional texting (for both parties). In my experience, it's way easier to keep a conversation going and flowing. Secondly, it's an app meant for pictures and it's socially acceptable to send them even somewhat randomly. For example, if you say you "just hit a workout," it isn't weird to then send a snap of your body with a pump. If you have a good body, you'll get a positive response 90% of the time. If you don't get a positive response, the picture disappears anyway and she will forget about it which leads me to my next point. It's easy to be forward on Snapchat. Any text you send will be gone in 24hrs and any picture you send will be gone in 10s, whereas messages never disappear through traditional texting. The point is that it's a lot easier to recover from sub-optimal messages because they disappear and the girl you're talking to will forget about them soon afterwards. If you give it enough time, they will probably even forget about you, and at that point, it will be easy to reengage. One of the things Snapchat has taught me is how replaceable men are to them and also how petty they can be. I've had multiple experiences of girls sending me nudes and then forgetting who I am when I reply to one of their stories just a couple of weeks later. I can't even imagine the number of men these girls talked to in between us. Also, leaving a girl on opened or delivered (even just for a day) almost always results in me getting blocked or unfriended so I try to either keep the conversation going or send them a random snap to get them to leave me on opened. This leads me to my next point, reengagement is especially easy on Snapchat. Girls will post thirst traps when they are looking for male attention or want to fuck. They also have more ways to send you choosing signals, for example, they can add you to a private story, send you random drunk pictures, or post stories trying to bait you into replying. On the flip side, it's also a lot easier to tell when a girl doesn't like you or is wasting your time, for example, if she posts stories while you are on delivered or opened, or if she sends you pictures of the ceiling instead of her face, etc etc. So in this way, Snapchat is more time efficient because it's a lot easier to know where you stand with the girl you're messaging. I also think it's easier to get a girl's Snapchat than her number. I will always ask for both and almost always get just the Snapchat username, which I actually prefer at this point anyways. I will say this, Snapchat probably isn't going to work for you if you're older than 30. I'm 26 and had Snapchat in high school along with every other high school kid at the time. I grew up with it and so did my peers, so it's normal for me or anyone younger than me to have one, which isn't the case if you're 35+. I will also say this, it's very easy to ruin your chances (at least in the moment) with a girl you're messaging. In the same way that one bad Tinder picture can ruin your profile, one bad selfie can make a girl lose interest entirely. Make sure you have at least a couple of angles where you know you look good and stick to those. Don't send too many snaps and keep it to mostly texting. That being said, if you do fuck up, you can just dead the conversation, move on to other girls, and then in a month or so you can reengage when she posts a thirst trap and she probably won't even remember you. I've had multiple experiences where I was able to reinitiate conversation and hook up with girls that I matched with months and even years ago. After a while, Snapchat just essentially becomes another dating app, because all of your matches from Tinder, Bumble, etc that were interested enough to give you their Snapchat username are pooled into the app. This generally makes the experience easier, because these girls are very likely to have a high initial attraction to you. You can then be targeted in your approach and catch them when they are horny. Good luck out there š
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I am beginning to notice that some women (particularly younger women 18-24) are testing for investment using a new strategy (probably from some TikTok dating advice videos). I'll preface by saying that I am aware that men are prone to overestimating female interest, but I have enough experience at this point to tell if a woman is playing games or not, and I've noticed that a lot of women are using this particular strategy. I'll refer to it as the left-on-seen test. This test is when a high-interest girl starts the conversation, seems highly engaged, and then leaves you on seen for basically no reason. It is confusing, but that is their goal. They want you to chase/pursue them more than you currently are to test your interest level. It's a particularly bad strategy because it's filtering for confidence, not interest even though that is not the intent. Most men will feel rejected if they get left-on-seen like this so they stop pursuing, even if they had a genuine interest. Then consequently, the woman will also feel rejected when the man doesn't pass the test by double texting even though the man in question was actually interested. From a woman's perspective (especially one with low self-esteem), high confidence is a characteristic that is innate to a man. So when a man takes this kind of test as a rejection and doesn't double text, the woman will take it as a sign of disinterest because they aren't even entertaining the possibility that their behavior is causing the man to feel rejected and walk away. I would have never believed that women genuinely thought like this until I read through multiple TikTok comment sections with the majority of women thinking along these lines. It's important to note that this is really only applicable when it seems like there is no other reason to be left-on-seen. For example, if you were too forward or boring and the girl never really gave you any reason to believe that she has high interest in you, then she probably just has low interest. One example I've had recently was this girl I had been talking to that sent me a TikTok which said, "all guys cheat so you might as well get played by a 10 and not a 2." When I asked her why she sent that video to me she said I was hot and that she was expecting me to play her. This is a clear indication of both high interest and low self-esteem (exactly the type of girl that would play games like this). She did the left-on-seen test a day later, I picked up on it, double-texted, and fucked her that night. A similar thing happened a couple of weeks ago where I messed up. I was talking with this Latina who also had very high sexual interest and low self-esteem (and possibly a long-distance boyfriend but not confirmed). When I asked her what she was doing (Thursday night), she left me on delivered (I assume she just went to sleep). In hindsight, I believe she was testing me to see if I would reach out the next day because she texted me at 4 am Friday telling me she was thinking about me and proceeded to leave me on delivered all Saturday. I think she actually might have lost interest in me and felt rejected because I did not reach out unprompted by her. I reached out three days later and at that point, the momentum was lost and she was clearly uninterested. I had a strict rule of not double texting if it hadn't been at least a couple of days because I did not want to over-pursue, but in situations like these, I think it is better to just swallow your pride and reach out quickly if you get left-on-seen for what seems like no reason. Assuming that the girl wants to be pursued/chased is probably the best default mindset if you have reason to believe a girl is playing games like this.
So I've personally never been one to chase women; I just don't have the motivation for it, and it feels unnatural for me. That said, I feel like I've probably lost a lot of women due to not trying hard enough or being too nonchalant. My strategy has always been to show interest upfront, mirror the women's interest level, and at any signs of disinterest/disrespect I leave. I've gotten good results using this method and always had good experiences with the women I hook up with or date. Recently, however, I've had several experiences where the woman seemed to take my perceived lack of effort very personally. One blocked me for seemingly no reason other than the fact that I took a couple of hours to respond to a text (after she was showing very high interest, responding very quickly, and dtf), and two others were highly offended when they left me on read/delivered and expected me to double-text them the next day to reengage the conversation. It seems like some women have become so accustomed to men that beg for their attention that they expect all men to behave that way if they are truly interested. I never used to think that women genuinely thought like that but recently, I've been seeing a lot of female dating advice videos telling women that they should never chase men and only deal with the ones that chase them. The reasoning behind this strategy is straightforward and does make sense, if a guy is willing to humble themselves a bit and show more effort then they are less likely to leave you or play you. Chasing women obviously isn't ideal from the man's perspective, but to some degree, I understand where the women are coming from by employing said strategy. Also, after seeing how desperate some guys are in those Tinder experiments for unattractive women, it makes me sick to think about the attention a reasonably attractive woman gets. If I had that many options, I would probably only deal with the ones that showed me high interest too. TLDR: So for those who have/do chase, does it ever work? If it does work, is it worth it? How far are you willing to go before calling it quits?
One of the most sexually frustrating experiences is building up sexual tension over text or Snapchat, getting to a point where we are sending nudes and talking about fucking, and then waking up the next morning, trying to set up a time to hang and the girl either flakes or seems completely uninterested. Is this the female version of post-nut clarity? In the moment they are obviously at least sexually intrigued. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, what are the ways to prevent this type of behavior?
For those of you that live in cities or urban areas, what is your average daily match/like count and how many do you typically pull in during a 30 minute boost period?
