So I have 2 girls whom I've been dating. I have kissed only one (1 date), and the other only hugging (6 dates). I am still a beginner, and have a hard time closing (having sex). Logistics is hard for me, because I live with a conservative family. Also the girl that I havent kissed, I met her through common friends, so Its not the same dynamic as an app girl. I have been talking daily with them, however I feel i'm being a bit pushy by greeting them everyday with a "good morning". I am not looking to just have sex with them; I would like to keep seeing both of them. What are your thoughts about greeting them everyday? Or should I only do it, If I feel like?
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When one spends several days procrastinating and not socializing, it becomes, at least for me, extremely hard to cold approach. And it gets very confusing, because one may think, he is nervous because he is not of that high value. And the same happens when texting. When one hasn't texted a new girl in a long time, the texting is not usually good I think. When one has like 5 active new chats, and just started a new one, it gets very easy to flirt and get her interested; very easy to escalate, because the recent memory of the brain just went through that same situation. This makes me think, does it all boils down to social momentum/life momentum? Think about it. From an evolutionary perspective it makes sense because one individual who has been frequently social within the population, it means that it has been most likely socially approved. It might be a defense mechanism for the population as a whole. Have the women breed with those socially approved, deemed to be safe. Then there's another point: for a man to be socially accepted, he needs to have good mood. That also depends on the recent memory of the brain. Like if you have a shitty life, that will affect your mood, and therefore your social momentum. So your behavior with a new girl, really, reflects your behavior with other people and your life in general. Also, consider this: when a guy has already been socially approved, and has been dating several decent girls, then he will feel a lot more confident to cold approach and escalate with hotter girls. Remember what that means, if he is able to get laid with hot women, that means that guy is not any guy. He is someone who has reached a superior social status. But why are there some guys who are a mess in life who are sometimes seen with hot girls? My hypothesis is that they are social and get some help of a substance (alcohol, smoking, meds, drugs) to artificially get the good mood and clear mind. What are your thoughts?
So.. I have been able to get decent dates in the pasts, some which ended in sex. However, sometimes I get stucked in a depressed and anxious state that lasts several weeks. In this state I have very hard time socializing, and I can't look ANYONE in the eyes. I can't even properly speak. I just mumble a lot, and don't have proper ideas. I'm sure this is because I isolate myself and drown in anxiety cycles. I have been getting lots of matches recently. 5-10 per day. I have several constant chats. However, I haven't booked dates, because I can't look people I the eyes. Yesterday I made an exemption, and had a second date with a girl, which I dated first time months ago (didn't had sex, just kiss). It went TERRIBLE. There wasn't chemistry because I just couldn't feel comfortable around her. I tried to kiss her and she did kiss back, but she was kind of uncomfortable and most likely lost all interest. Of course I need to work on myself and get out of this hellish state, however I feel I need to keep dating women otherwise I'll start to lose general motivation and will lose the little practice I currently have. My question is how do you guys think I could handle dates in which I can't even look girls in the eyes. I can't even express myself. Has anyone had similar experiences? To be honest, most of my dates I've had in this depressed state, have gone terrible, unless I am completely honest in how I feel with the girl, and she understands it and accepts it. That has actually worked, but It kind of only works in "lower value women".
First of all, sorry for my bad English. This dating dynamic is extremely unfair to men. Apart from having to work hard to have enough money to pay them everything, pay the ride, pay the food, pay the hotel, pay the condoms (usually here in Mexico, that's what is expected of men, to pay everything); we need to be fit, have certain status, dress well, have an interesting life. And if that's not enough, we have to make "dating rituals" (game), just to keep her interested enough to answer us messages or accept our date. We need to think about special messages, timing, logistics; while they, the only thing they have to do is say yes or no. If we don't reply In some hours or days, she's lost, while she may stop responding for whatever time she wants.. and nothing happens. And even if we have done all that, and we are finally dating her, we have to be clever about advancing sexually with her. And it's very annoying, because it seems as she doesn't want to get sexual. Most of the time it seems as she is avoiding it, but at the same time, if you don't advanced sexually, she gets bored! So you have to be insisting, until the doors open. At the end, when the man is finally able to put his pp inside, finally the woman most likely would start consider him as another equal human being. When you finally fucked her, you can now relax, and be your real self.. Sorry for this rant, but I'm very frustrated about the fact, that if a man says the wrong thing, he simply gets ghosted.. Where's love? Is this love? All I see is high narcissism and lazynesss from woman's part, and pure competition from men's part.. Honestly I'm just considering giving up on high value women, and just focus on low value women. At least that's how I feel like there we be something closer to what we all consider love to be.
