Thanks man. What about prompts/bio, safe to reuse the same, or better to change them up too ?

Forgot to add :

• Any difference if I get an Apple or Android phone ? Alternatively, is it possible/recommended to create a new profile on the web/not through the phone app ?

And : still on Tinder and CMB, not banned

I thought holding hands was just part of the whole being touchy escalation (i was also touching her leg and kissing her cheek during the date, and on some of my other dates it seems to work fairly well). But sure I can see how beta & cringey it might've looked holding hands while walking

Not taking risks though... i dunno, I think I did given the situation ? Like i said i was very touchy with her (aside from the holding hands thing) and went for the kiss at the end. If you mean that i didn't invite her back to my place, like i said she just abruptly made to leave saying she had early golf tomorrow & her ride had already arrived. Was i supposed to insist that she stay and cancel her ride ?

Just genuinely curious what else specifically i could've done to move things forward

So it worked and we actually went out. The date was okay, we were at a bar and we were holding hands and being touchy by the middle/end, but she abruptly had to leave (had golf the following morning allegedly).

We were still holding hands when i walked her out, when we parted ways i just went for the kiss. we kissed but like not a long slog, but neither did she reject it. So my own impression of the date was that yeah she was cute and she evidently thought me the same, the energy was just okay, not like "fuck yeah". so i had already suspected it wasn't going anywhere

When i got home, she texted first (see attachment) . But, as you can see from the screenshot, i ended up double texting (see timestamps) and ignored

So you can see that was quite a while back, i had just shrugged it off and moved on, i figured she backwards-rationalized the date and wasn't that interested in me after all.

But now, i just saw our convo again so i remembered her, so i'm asking now if it's worthwhile to triple text. Or should i definitvely consider this an L

Maybe she's also "entertaining" the other dude precisely cos he's a client ?

Whatever it might be, seems like you need to get more info. So on your next interaction (whether in person or while texting), you can either :

1. playfully ask her about it/point it out (maybe something like "where's your boyfriend today ;)" --> then hopefully you get a straight answer from her i.e. "Haha he's okay/etc" (then you know she picked her) or "Noo he's just a friend/client". Goes without saying of course to do this in a light teasing way, no jealousy. if she gives a shit test "why ? you jealous ?" then pass it by agreeing and exaggerating ("so jealous it hurts babe" or something, i dunno i'm not as quick on my feet as alex lol but you get the picture)

2. Like what Rhaegar is life said, simply ask her out. That's the easiest way to end the "mind games". "hey listen we've been talking a while and tbh i think you're cute, we should get some wine after a good workout". She'll either say i'm down, sorry im seeing the other dude, maybe, but from her response you'll probably get a good indication of where she's at with the guy (and with you)

Either way, if you learn that she's picked the other guy after all, tough luck, but at least you get to move on quickly than be stuck in overanalyzing hell

UPDATE : so after reengaging a couple of times, I was able to hard-close. See the screenshots, her last reply was last night. My replies to that were just a couple of minutes earlier. (I edited in the timestamps)

But as you can see, her username and profile pic are no longer displayed (just "Instagram User"). I only learned of this after I sent my last two messages. So after her last reply (but before I sent my last messages), she must have either blocked me or she just simply and (hopefully) temporarily deactivated. I'd like to think it's the latter since I don't think I did anything off anyway ? Or was she pissed that I didn't reply to her immediately ? But let me know what you guys think. Either way I know there's not much I can really do at this point haha

BUT if it is just a temporary deactivation/social media break (and hopefully she'll be back online before our date) :

My second question is, I'm wondering if my very last message (i.e. i'm coming from work not in the area, so let's meet 8pm to be sure) is reasonable or will just complicate things, and therefore I should unsend it (since she's deactivated, she won't see me unsending). Truth is I can very much meet her earlier, but I felt that I shouldn't be readily available for her & immediately agree, and so I should stick to my busy/work frame

I'm obviously overthinking here. I've been fucking and have other dates lined up (in fact I wasn't able to immediately reply cos I was with a girl), but i think the scarcity/oneitis is coming through cos she's a foreigner and pretty hot lol

I'm in the same situation too with several chicks (i.e. not available anymore till after the holidays), hell i'm sure most people are lol

So I also asked a similar question i.e. should you banter with prospects throughout the holidays, here https://forums.playingfire.com/comments/jhcumlbydi8qj

From the responses, it's basically 1) like what GG fG said, just wait till 2023, or 2) you can lightly banter to keep it warm, i.e. a christmas or NY greeting there and maybe build up the soft close from there

So it's a little conflicting for me as well, but I'm more inclined with 2). Two weeks with zero contact can be a long time, probably wouldn't hurt to get in a cheeky text or two. And when she asks like "hbu how are you spending the holidays", you can tell her you're also swamped with christmas socials and get-togethers etc. as a small DHV

anyway i decided to just like the "happy holidays" and hit her up again in a couple of days, maybe christmas and/or new year

I'll keep this thread updated since the chick's my type and i'd hate to ruin it haha any advice is always welcome cheers

Alex has a video or two on playing the long game, so you can benefit from watching those. Just search on youtube

Aside from that, I think just general advice on here : banter, keep it light and flirty/sexual but also you can mix it with (slightly) serious stuff so you're not always on either funny or serious mode

And also (still general advice) don't develop one-itis/get clingy by still meeting new girls. I'm surprised i don't see that term (one-itis) being thrown around so much anymore, but that shit is real

Hey man thanks. Yeah I've always wondered if I was overthinking this too much, hate to admit it but i do get anxious when i've left a chick on read for too long

not sure if you've read the rest of the screenshots though, she said she wasn't free anymore the rest of the holidays which is fair. So we sorta agreed in principle to meet first week of Jan, except that she ignored my hard close ("what evenings are you free first week of Jan"). So I'm wondering how to proceed from here (like then reengage in a few days, or playfully call it out/ask her again what her sched is like first week of Jan )