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She was being a little dry but still participating, I found myself initiating the close a bit early and was trying to build up the convo a bit and get some more investment going before going for the hard close. Hence my"promise?" reply, but I wonder if I overdid it with the qualification. Thoughts? How would you re-engage if she doesnt answer
First date with a girl at a bar on Thurs (9/5), while we were out we made plans for the following Saturday (9/14) to hang out since that weekend she was busy and weekdays are tough for me. Just a movie + wine back at the crib etc. Date went well, but Im fresh out of a relationship and overanalyzing / overly in my head about texting. I sent her a followup text today (Sunday) with the goal of possibly planning a mid-week hangout as opposed to waiting to the weekend (as I just found out Ill be off midweek for a few days). But my last text has gone unresponded, which I was plannng to build off towards a soft close. Pic attached, but basically my question is. How would you re-engage? Aka what double text would you send, and how long would you give it
I know he used to recommend a Miami guy but I cant find the video, can someone post a link?
After investing time into my profiles, Ive started to match with objective 10s. Eg professional hot girls with 50k followers and whatnot. However, while I can get the match, # closing the 10s is not coming as easy as the more mid kinda girls (obviously) Any tips? IndianPE has said in the past its mostly the same except you need to be a little more persistent. But anything else? For example, Ive noticed the 10s tend to invest less on average (or at least, they are terser testers) and that sometimes more plowing is needed. Ive also noticed that gaminess and cliche topics (ethnicity for example) dont work as well with them. Which brings me to qualification and frame control... In general, how important is qualification on the apps? IRL, I do very well on dates and qualification tends to be part of my overall game. But on the apps, qualification seems a strategy that (again) seems to work more on the mid girls than the hot girls. Although im not swimming in 10s as I am with mid girls, seems that my largest success has come moreso from maintaining frame and having good banter rather than forcing outright qualification. For example, its more important to pass shit tests / maintain frame / maintain equal or higher value in her eyes vs the whole "Qualify ---> close" structure which someone like Todd V might advise. Todd also used to advised being highly polarizing online / borderline offensive. Which I also havent found to work very well. I find a better strategy to just be to use extreme sarcasm or something along those lines Any thoughts? Hope my question makes sense
Very simple, when you cant think of anything from the profile, whats your go-to? Outside of Alex's favorites like "Hey Trouble", etc And to take it a step further, you guys got any good canned openers you use for certain archetypes? Eg your favorite opener to use on a nurse, lawyer, etc
To make a long story short, met a girl at gym and there was huge initial interest. Things started off pretty intensely and we hooked up on the first date. Things were good for the week after but slowly started to fizzle out. I have my theories as to why, but the main ones include an ex coming back into the picture, and the second includes me validating her a bit too much after the first date which I imagine threw off the vibe she had of me. She seemed to have low self esteem and I figured the validation would help her be normal around me (she was initially very awkward and nervous), but in retrospect I think I might have overdone it. Im in pretty good shape and I know a number of girls at my gym have expressed interest in me, so I wonder if the fact that I was so “easy” kinda killed the mystery for her etc. Last few dates she flaked and I just got a sense that her interest has been dropping for a bit now, so Ive left the ball in her court. Didnt chase and just kinda left it as is since given her lack of reciprocation it didnt make sense to try for more. I know this is a “seduction” forum, and this is less more about the seduction aspect and more about the retention (possible long term) aspect of it. I dont have problem with seduction (aka getting dates, getting consistent sex, etc), but apparently im not so good at keeping girls around after... or at the very least Im very rusty. With that said, outside of pulling away, maybe surrounding myself with other girls and possibly improving my looks a bit for the upcoming summer, are there any “techniques” within the seduction community for reattracting a girl? I imagine the prevailing advice is just move on, continue improving yourself, have abundance, etc. And these are kinda great tactics in general just for clearing your head and accepting the situation for what it is/moving on. But Im wondering if theres something more concrete as far as retracting a girl, much in the same way that certain techniques we employ usually trigger a predictable response within a girl when it comes to PUA etc.
JW. My first 3 pics get the most likes by far and while they're definitely my favorite, the latter 3 get very few in comparison. IMO they're good pics, so Im wondering is this just a case where girls dont usually bother scrolling past the halfway point of the profile? Or maybe they're just not as good as I think. Wondering what everyone else's experience with those latter 3 pics is.
Basically, met a girl at my gym, and she was super into me from the start. Almost obsessively so, constantly and instantly texting, spoke of me very highly to her friends, and on our date she was straight up awkward and entirely nervous. We did hook up. Fast forward 2 weeks and I noticed a small change in vibe. Its still fine, but she's less obsessive and more normal around me. Some might take it as a good thing, and that seems reasonable, but it come accompanied with less frequent hangouts, less frequent texting (more time in btwn messages too). Also, in person the vibe has gone from her being like "I can't believe you actually wanted to hang out with me", "I was so shocked you were interested", basically really idealizing me to more teasing and straight up frame flips ("aw how cute you missed me", "aw you must really want to hang out with me", "Tuesday could work... if youre worth it. I think your chances are good though"). These comments were all a bit unexpected and I just kind of let them pass without getting reactive, even though I didnt really have a clever response for them - I just kinda went silent and ignored them. But it still took me by surprise how quickly she acclimated to me. She's still quite flirty and down for plans, she just seems a little less available than before. I dont typically have 'ongoing relationships' and within those that I have had, I haven't experienced these types of frame shifts. Do you guys take all this as a sign of declining interest/me losing value in her eyes? Or more on the contrary, that she simply feels better about the relationship hence her acting more 'normal'. Curious to hear your thoughts
Seen Alex mention it a few, assuming you live in a place were its legal to get Kratom, where do you guys choose to get it?
Some context, girl from the gym, she's 21 Im in my 30s. There's intense physical attraction and we get along very well, but the other day she started doing this weird shit calling me "bitch". Kinda like how girls call each other "bitch". I told her it was fucken weird and it doesn't offend me, its just weird... like me calling a girl Im dating "bro" or "dude", a girl calling me "bitch" just kills the romantic / flirty vibe. Am I being overly sensitive and I should just expect this from how a 21 year old talks? Or maybe Im reading too much into this and just need to calm the fuck down? Lmk your thoughts. Screenshot attached from recent texts for added context. I had debated whether to call it out over text but figured it might be too much drama, so figured Id just say it in person. Does it come off as flimsy? (side note she's recovering from the flu, hence the 'how are you' messages, even though she never responded to the last message)
