Since I couldn't wait much longer. I just went with this. I just think it's too soon to throw out specific date ideas. No investment has occurred, and relative to my other matches she's pretty attractive, so she might just look for someone else.

I'm sure you've heard AMS suggest phone calls. At the same time, I remember you saying it's not a great idea in response. I still have no idea why I suggested it, but I think that was why I got flaked and left on read.

The reality of it is, I actually did have a problem with my brakes. Which was why I was trying to call her, because I thought it made sense to explain it over the phone. I guess that was a bad idea.

Regardless, I just need more matches so I can get the reps in. I've only had 4 dates at age 25 and am a virgin. Hopefully that will change soon.

Welp, she unmatched me instead.

I guess I have to increase my SMV boys.

Well I went ahead and responded before you got back because I figured I'd have to think on my feet here. It's a pretty lame response, still setting the nice guy frame here. My mind is so hardwired to hold a conversation like this with a girl that it's hard for me to think otherwise.

It's also kind of tough to be flirtatious and sexual in a conversation when you're never like that in the first place. I want to, but even after watching the videos Idk how to do it on a place like Hinge.

Like do I joke about my job here? I'm not a sexologist or massage therapist or anything. Just an engineering technician

It's gotten to a point where my only hobby now is reading and obsessing over dating for the most part. So by default I'm boring. I just want everything to "click" for me one day but it hasn't happened yet.

Yeah I get what you're saying. I'll be honest, I've watched almost all of Alex's videos at least once, and I go back to some for reference. But I deleted the apps a few months ago because I wasn't making any progress and didn't get dates out of using them (and I paid over $70 for premium/platinum).

So with going from unemployed to getting a new job and a couple of new pictures (that are only slightly better than what I have), I thought I'd give it a shot. And it seems like I'm doing a little better with matches, particularly on Hinge (I haven't gotten more than 10 likes on Tinder) since I started 3 weeks ago.

Living with my parents is detrimental, but I get to save a shit ton of money. I told myself I'd move out in the late spring/early summer, but after being treated the way I have been on these apps by girls like her who see me as a beta male, I think I'm going to push it forward. I make more than enough money to move out, but the rent around here is pretty funny. That's why I haven't been following the method. Because it won't work for me right now. I live in a suburb, 20 minutes outside of the city. I can't go to a bar and walk home. It's funny though because my coworkers are saying I'm doing the smart thing by saving money living at home, but I feel like when it comes to dating, it's the stupid thing to do.

Now with the movies thing. You're saying I was over sharing? I thought that by showing that I did more than just watch paint dry, that would be considered a DHV. Particularly with the movies I did watch. And on the friends thing, I basically have none. They're all in different states or we don't talk anymore. But the killer workout line is always a classic and I need to use it more, especially because I do go to the gym.

Again, the phone call thing was partly because I saw AMS recommend that you call a girl before a date, and also because I had to cancel because I legitimately have issues with my car. I thought it would be better explaining that over a phone call where we can hear each other's voices than over text.

And yes, setting a 9am date and being squeezed in on a Sunday was a mistake, that was me who asked the question on the live stream

With?

I think when I get matches like these, I get so impatient texting because I think she's going to leave me on read at any time (which has happened before while it seemed we were vibing). So I rush to get the number.

Is there even a way to salvage the conversation?