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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

Good playbook! I want to do the best I can so I will go over this again.

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

That is true. Probably a good sign if she's talking even if it's a shit test. What would you say about having co-workers with me? I have a couple of good buddies at work. I feel like having peer pressure to do it would help. On my own, I'm so much more likely to chicken out. We could make like we're going for a walk to the convenience store and ask her if she wants to come. Or maybe something else?

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

That's really good stuff! Do girls ever ask where you're going? If you're honest--say, going home to parents--it could make you sound like a loser. If you lie and say going out with friends, they might request to come out with you. Before you ask, yes, I do have a few friends--not a lot.

Me - "Hey i have to get back it was fun talking to you, what's your number so we can do it again"
Her - "Oh, where are you going back to? Your mom's basement? You're some random guy. Why should I give you my number?"

Would I highlight the work thing in that we work like one building over from each other?

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

Thanks, man. Sometimes you gotta rip the Band-Aid off, I guess haha. I will update if and when I do it.

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

Yeah, and I guess I should fix up my attire a bit. I usually go to work super casual. Any tips on conversation - talk about her work schedule? I'm guessing I'll have a short 5 minute window. Have to test the waters and see if I'm her type/if she's single. And all of this is hinging on passing by at the right time before she has to return to work. I have seen her by chance generally about once a month, maybe twice.

Ok, so let's say she's all about it. My thought is to get her number, get a better sense of her schedule, and then try to set up plans based on that.

If she is sort of lukewarm, what would be a way to win her over?

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

I was definitely putting effort into Jacynda, which I hope will pay off later on. I'm not sure what you mean by "when you are the point of origin." I take that as I am expressing interest and spending time on her, but she pulls away and has other commitments. It seemed like I was a backup dinner plan for her, unfortunately. I could have been more outgoing or flirtatious, but I felt I wasn't getting enough back from her.

When she told me she was getting dinner with someone else, I said, "Oh damn, really? You're not coming with us?" Is there a better reply I should use in the future?

Yes, one of things that helped me was I got phone numbers quickly as the event was just starting, so I had that running in the background while I talked to other girls. My mistake was failing to close higher probability targets. I left them unattended while someone was chattering too long with me, and another guy sat down next to her. Another situation - shorter girl recognized me on the dance floor and approached in a friendly way. I hugged her, danced briefly but left the perimeter open and another guy got all up in that and soon left with her.

More successful example with the same girl - a guy grabbed her ass and I followed up immediately and did the same in a confident manner. She then sat down next to me, but I neglected to sexualize any further.

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

It was just an opener to throw out there so we'll see!

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

I sent your second text 4.5 hours ago. No response yet - I will keep you posted

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

Yeah, I'm def not a Chad. I don't want to get friendzoned, but getting ghosted sucks. Besides massage, could you give examples of plausibly deniable texts? I normally think of sarcasm as plausibly deniable. Sarcasm is a common, and disarming, way to handle many objections that center around sex and dating.

"I'm a shy virgin" downside - doesn't work if you are a virgin/inexperienced

"Don't worry I'm gay" - is this a good one?

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J

11 Posts (+5), 23 Cmts (+1)

Hmm, massages might be a good approach! Would it be helpful to put that in the bio, or maybe have a photo of you massaging a girl? Both?

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