My 3-month Tinder stats (nerdy af) - how to improve
This is from March 1st to May 31th 2021.
Are these stats any good? How can I improve?
Matches: 93
Matches I messaged: 82
Numbers: 19
Booked dates: 15
Flakes by me: 1
Flakes by girls: 5
Actual dates: 9 (# of girls, not counting second dates)
Number of dates: 11 (counting second dates)
Total hookups: 6
2 of hookups were from dates without ever getting their phone number/snap/ig.
Some of my numbers are ice cold (ghosted/stopped responding). Some are still warm.
Number close rate: 23%
Booked dates to matches rate: 18%
Flake rate: 33%
Actual dates to matches rate: 11%
Hookups to matches rate: 7%
First date close rate: 55%
MORE INFO:
• Live in small european country
• 8th biggest city in my country (150k popluation)
• I'm 24.
• Have girls age 18-25 showing in my settings
• Half my matches are from other cities (dates not as likely to happen)
• Stats with girls in my city probably better overall
• NEVER used Tinder gold/platinum or any boosts
• Have like 25-30 likes (I get like 1 new like a week)
BIGGEST PROBLEM: Not matching with the hot chicks in my city although I swipe on them all the time.
MY BIO TRANSLATED:
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185 cm 🥂
- Prince of Balkan
- 4 languages
- Cuddle expert (had top grades in school)
- Make the world's second best scrambled eggs
Weaknesses: A beautiful smile, humor, and a great 🍑
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HOW CAN I IMPROVE?
I've attached my photos. I've removed the shirtless pics for now. The mirror selfie tanked my results.
Better pics is an obvious one. Should I hire a lifestyle photographer for that?
Should I find a dog somehow and take pictures with it?
Should I buy Tinder gold/platinum, start using boosts?
Or anything else?
Not sure if me not matching with girls I find attractive is due to the pictures or the algo not showing my profile (been shadowbanned once before)
Any help is appreciated!!! LOVE PWF and this forum
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39 Posts (+8), 697 Cmts (+226)
Personally think your second pic is better than first. Id be interest to know % of makeouts on dates that aren't closed, and % of closes on public vs. straight to the house dates. 55% close rate seems pretty good to me. Are you using hinge and Bumble as well? You're a good looking dude, I think the biggest thing holding you back is these pics.
Thank you. Yeah I guess there’s nothing wrong with the stats. Just the quality is not there. I’m not super attracted to the girls I’m meeting up with.
I’ve tried switching up the order. Can’t say for sure I get better results with one picture first or the other. The girls I’ve asked (that I’ve hooked up with) say the like the picture on the bike the most.
Bumble is dead in my country/city. Get 1 match per month. Have not tried hinge, that’s not a thing where I’m at lol.
If there’s a heavy makeup session, I almost always close. If it’s just kissing (no tongue) then I usually don’t close. Only been on one date where I didn’t kiss the girl but the vibe was kinda off. Btw all my dates are straight to the house.
39 Posts (+8), 697 Cmts (+226)
I totally relate. So my suggestion is to widen the funnel. Use hinge (if you have some wit, I think this app is best), and bumble. I also suggest hiring a photographer. You're good looking, so I think 7s and up is a realistic goal as you're moving into more advanced stages. I also look at this stage as practice. Learning to systematically move from match to date, from date to close, from close to retention is all a valuable skillset to have. Once you start landing dates with chicks you are really are attracted to, you will be less attached to outcomes and more practiced in seduction. I have a friend who holds out for girls he is intensely attracted to, but he performs terribly on dates because he's getting like 1 date a month, and he cares too much. It's like any skill, you have to practice. I happened to spend the weekend with a girl who Im crazy attracted to. I was able to effectively seduce her and she is hitting me up for more. This didn't just happen though, it took all the practice leading up. You will see quality improve and you will notice yourself being more selective simply because you can. I commend the efforts brah
118 Posts (+42), 716 Cmts (+312)
Pics are solid I would just crop the top of some of them down so you’ll appear taller
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
This is pretty decent stats. You could probably improve somethings by few percentage points but there's nothing major you're doing wrong at all. I would say my stats are in that ballpark as well. If you want to increase the number of chicks you bang, just get more leads in the funnel. Your profile is already very solid though. The only thing I'm not sure is the order. Maybe ask a few girls which one they like the most and make it your main profile pic
50 Posts (+39), 78 Cmts (+18)
Thank you Alex. Even if the stats are the same, the biggest difference is the quality of the girls I’m matching and meeting up with. Not super attracted to them.
And I like how you think, all the girls I’be asked seem to like the bike picture the most. Will get a bigger sample size. Will also snap new pics in the upcoming month.
28 Posts (+33), 60 Cmts (+18)
Make sure you ask them which one they would most want to fuck you after seeing. If you just ask their fav they’ll often pick the most beta.