Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!
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I've been pretty quiet in the community lately due to cutting off social media (and I'm much happier/healthier from this), but this was one I had to respond to.
I spent years of my life using materials from some other mainstream PUA companies. I live in a mid-tier city, where online game is the best option for consistent girls and leads. My first few years messing around on Tinder / online dating, I got maybe 5-7 lays. I'm truly ashamed now to say, in the months leading up to me buying this product, I went on 20 some public dates, and during that time I "kiss closed" 10 girls in a row but didn't bang a single one of them. I was frustrated yet had no idea what I was doing wrong.
Then, I met a local guy who turned me onto PWF. I read the product inside and out at least 3 or 4 times. And, I used the Mastermind not just as a place to get fed lines, but to observe the feedback others were getting and apply it to myself.
Over the ~12 months after buying the PWF product and becoming active in the Mastermind, I closed on average two new girls a month. Virtually every single one was a straight-to-house fuck date. I'm 31, the average girl was probably 22 or 23 years old and cute.
Through the Mastermind and some 1:1 coaching from Indian PE himself, I started getting fairly consistent results. I even wrote a bonus chapter in the Online Dating Blueprint product.
Overall, what I've come to love about PWF is that it's no BS, no fluff, and a relatively straightforward model to follow. I'm very selective about who in the community I'm willing to invest my time and money in following, and Alex is one of the very few who's real and truly legit.
Note that I'm just an average guy. I don't take care of my body nearly as well as I should, and I'm just shy of 5'6". I'm no Chad or anything even remotely close.
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That’s awesome man. Think a lot of us have experience checking PUA stuff, but never were able to actually profit from it.
Looking forward to work for the same improvements as you did man!
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lol its so funny how many of us have pua backgrounds. I think it has its place, but much of it doesnt translate well to OLD
eg being cocky is tough to pull off online. disqualification is also tough. eg the classic 'we wont get along' will just have most girls being like 'ok weirdo, bye'. it has its place if you can be SUBTLE
funny enough, I think you get better carry over from transferring your text vibe (think Alex's cool, low energy, fun/ flirty vibe) to your real world game. as opposed to vice versa
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Thanks so much for sharing, man
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""Note that I'm just an average guy. I don't take care of my body nearly as well as I should, and I'm just shy of 5'6". I'm no Chad or anything even remotely close.""
Then how do you do it? you say you get about 2 girls a month? I just posted my dating apps pics in this forum, what can I do to improve my photos? I struggle a lot to get matches
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Ion Correa dude, your pics are absolutely TERRIBLE. As Alex says, if you're a 6, your pics should make you look slightly better than you really are - like a 6.5 or 7. Your pics make you look less attractive than you actually are, by at least 1-1.5 points if not more.
I invested a lot of money to hire a professional photographer, and I put constant time into taking and cultivating new photos everywhere I went. I also got a cooler haircut and grew facial hair while upping my fashion to be more edgy. These are all things you need to work on: your picture quality, fashion, style, grooming are all hurting you.
I'll also be clear that, at least in the US, I am not banging super hotties off of Tinder. On average, they are girls that most guys would consider decently cute, but rarely would guys call them "hot."