Since joining PWF a couple of weeks ago, I understand (online) game a lot better. A lot of valuable content on here! But I notice a small gap in practical application. The lay reports show a lot of good info, but it seems most of the time there is already pretty good response/investment from the start. In combination with the skills of the PWF men, it can feel like a big gap. Where we start as rookies and where they are already. I think it would be very beneficial if the guys on here would share some stories about how they turned around their game. Some before and after text game screenshots, the mental aspect of it etc. Now we just need YOU to break the ice and post YOUR succes story in this thread!
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I have been in the community from the start. I was always very needy sweet, trying to win girls over. At first, when PWF Members would suggest me to go sexual, I would hesitate A LOT. But I read all their Lay Reports and thought maybe they know their stuff and started sending everything they gave me.
Soon, I had girls coming over constantly and I couldn't close because I didn't know how to. I would post Field Reports explaining everything. seeing a constant pattern Alex jumped on a live call with me and explained that I should be congruent and gave me pointers on how to lead and maintain eye contact, build tension.
Since then, it was always a done deal, the community helped me get my SMV higher, the texts were always sexual directed towards hookup and I would have girls come over for hookup and since i would have insane value in her eyes and sexual frame, I just went with the pointers and started closing.
A had a few mind blowing experiences, main being you can always sexualize a conversation. If you do it properly, without rushing or being incongruent, the girl will always love it and be her sexual genuine self.
I also realized the only window these girls have in your life is the window you show them. So you have the power to frame your life as you want to. If you're working as a bartender, don't say you're a bartender, say you're insanely passionate about xyz and you love it, you're pursuing that, but to pay the bills you took up bartending to party hard, spend time with my homies and have fun while I am pursuing my passion of xyz. This reframe will change her perception instead of using "I am a bartender".
I also learned how to be more congruent, witty and keep the conversation more engaging and fun. A lot of girls tell me, they had the most fun talking with me because I stood out with my direct, forward approach and the funny sexual banter.
The community is extremely helpful, over 100s of love reports, mostly covering all aspects of situations, objection handling and maintaining your frame.
I will have to dig to find the old screenshots since I have changed couple of phones since 2018, but what really helped was having the community always helping you out.
Eventually your mind starts picking things up and you understand the psychology behind messages and why it works and why the girls get horny and come over to fuck.
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Thank you for sharing man. It means a lot. Love to hear about the improvements :)
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I relate to this post a lot, I am currently getting started on this journey but I’ve always been the “nice, sweet” guy who always gets friendzoned.
I’ve only ever been on committed relationships for my entire dating life now I’m 27 and I just want to have some fun and stay single.
What’s your best advice for someone like me who is in the same shoes as you were 4 years ago? I have a feeling I’m going to struggle a lot in person as well when I start getting my first dates
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Awesome shit man!
Sounds like something the PWF crew can be very proud of. Thanks for the input
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this is an awesome read
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