Hey boys, this interaction is typical of dates that I'm landing. Am I failing to build enough investment? What can I do to increase probability

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How are you running your dates? You also don't seem to frame it that you're going back to your place.

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This is where I need a ton of work I think. I don't drink, so the wine date doesnt work. Right now, Im meeting them outside my place, bring them in and give them a tour when I have to "step in and grab my coat", usually go for a walk and grab coffee, or to a bar around the corner, I talk about ordering dinner, back to my place to order, go for the makeout, then it's sushi/netflix n chill. I am very open to suggestions here. If you didn't drink, how would you suggest a girl come straight to your place?

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I put way less effort into my dates and usually buy cheap ass wine. If you're getting make outs and no sex from my experience the girl thinks you just want sex. This is fine for some girls, but turns off a lot as well. My conversations are very platonic for a while into the date before slow physical escalation. If the girl isn't super into the make out then I pull back and keep building comfort. If I can't build comfort then I ask her what's up and answer objections. By the time I'm going for the make out I've already held her hand, played with her hair, etc. Be genuinely interested in what she's saying and actively listen. There are surely more optimized ways, but this is what I enjoy.

As for pulling her to your place just make up some excuse "oh let's take a nap/watch a movie/cuddle/etc."

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