Damn that’s some nice feedback man, much appreciated!

That’s pretty much what goes on in my mind. Not really knowing which is which. Sometimes it’s pretty fucking obvious the vibe ain’t there. But other times I feel like it’s just like you said; a lack of game resulting in the girl not being as interested as she could’ve been. Which in turn feels like the vibe isn’t there, while maybe it’s just me not being able to get her to the vibe I would want her to be.

Great man. Backed off a bit trying to social calibrate better. Next time don’t continue sexualizing when “the moment” passed? Or did you meant something else with handling it better

It does man! I knew it was a bit too general, but you still hit it right on the head.

My confusing stems a bit from exactly what you’re saying. Like having that Hand Moody vibe is a lot easier when girls give you more to work with. I struggle with the 8’s and 9’s who are holding a frame of prove to me you’re worthy. Haven’t found a lot of females that I find really attractive who where in a more open vibe from the beginning. If they aren’t, I tend to struggle still having that Moody vibe. If it doesn’t flow natural from the start I have a hard time turning it into something that seems to flow natural.

The females that are really attractive in my opinion seem like there like “let’s give him a shot to show his worth”. Which of course is something almost every female has, but in maybe lesser degrees. So I figured it must have to do a lot with your initial SMV. But then seeing the gap between advanced guys and myself how many 9’s and 10’s they pull while they may even have a lower SMV to start with. I’m like how the fuck do they DHV themselves so properly that those females are much more invested from the beginning of the convo.

Wanted to add that I had a bio that probably was way too cocky, because I thought it displayed confidence. So turned that down a bit yesterday.

Funny you spoke about ego. Just watched your older video with Indian PE. I was like yep I need to break my ego a bit more so I can be more objective in conversations. Any tips to keep that Hank Moody “I’m interested, but at the same time you need to prove yourself as well” vibe, when a woman gives you not much to work with?

This is so much harder then I expected haha. Thanks for the feedback man

Appreciate it. Just today I came across a perfect example of fucking up, but not knowing what I should’ve done better.

Translation:

Her question : When is the last time you made a friend

My answer: 12 years ago, real friends are hard to come by.
Her answer: 3 months ago in the train

Her: They are vert hard to come by!

Me: Haha says the lady who met one 3 months ago in the train.

Her: Yes, she became a good friend even to this day.

Me: Love spontaneous things like that crossing your path
Me: So you’re an open minded person

Her: Yes, always exciting
Her: Depends
Her: Not always
Her: Pretty limited

Me: Giving a situation like that an opportunity to grow into something more sounds open minded to me

Her: Yes in situation like that I’m open 💯

Me: Love it
Me: Think we would go along just fine

Her: Based on what?

Me: Mindset
Me: Mindset & vibe are the most important aspects to me

Her: You don’t know a lot about my mindset.
Her: But okay

Me: True, almost nothing. But a situation like that says something about a person

Her: Ok

Me: What do you look for on Bumble?

Reading it back looks like I’m chasing too much. Noticed it in the convo as well. Tried to hold a frame of I know what I want, but no idea how I could’ve made it more interesting and get her to invest a bit more..

Thanks man. Not necessarily too fast for a soft close?

I live in The Netherlands. How come I would have the upper hand and how would you suggest using it in my advantage?

Alright, thanks man!

Completely agree man. One of my biggest struggles is exactly that. Real life SMV is pretty decent so you can pull off a lot by just having a confident vibe.

But text game? Damn. Straight overthinking and feeling like a 40 year old virgin

That’s awesome man. Think a lot of us have experience checking PUA stuff, but never were able to actually profit from it.

Looking forward to work for the same improvements as you did man!