PWF definitely helped me in the right direction. I went from complete noob to beginner. Got about 15 leads (numbers) and about 3-4 hook ups the past month. Conversations are slowly getting better. But now I notice I’m a bit stuck again. Tend to destroy my latest convo’s a bit. The leads I already have are drying out and I’m struggling a lot with DHV’ing and keeping it interesting enough when it isn’t possible to meet up in the first couple of days. I predominantly am attracted to black women as a white man. I don’t know if it’s my ego, but I feel like for a lot of the black females in my country being white kind puts me at a disadvantage. Like I have to “proof” myself. I read and watched a lot of the stuff on PWF and the YouTube channel about flirting and increasing investment. Still having a hard time actually creating and/or displaying this. Do you guys have some tips on this aspect? Also wanted to share this convo where it actually starts of right and I’m making the wrong moves. Not knowing what to say, I went in for the soft close waaaay too fast in my opinion. Now contemplating how to create more investment in the mean time to actually close later. Translation: Me: Hey trouble Her: Don’t know if I want to respond to your message, because you look way too cute and way too sporty. Her: But now I see I already responded.. Me: Just shot yourself in the foot then Me: But don’t worry I don’t bite... Well not too hard that is. Her: Haha well well Her: That’s a bit exaggerated Her: Good! Me: How is the quarantine life treating you? Her: Can’t complain Her: What about you? Me: Work, training, enjoying my balcony and the sun with a little drink here and there. Kinda enjoying this quarantine thing. Her: Haha good! Me: Do you like wine? Her: Sure Her: What about you? Me: I’m more of a rum and whiskey type of man. Me: If the sun stays out you should join me for a drink sometime. I figured depending on her answer I need to build more investment and DHV myself more to actually close and minimize flaking. What are some tips you guys have in general to make a convo like this smoother (next to not being as fast with the soft close of course)
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Thanks man. Not necessarily too fast for a soft close?
I live in The Netherlands. How come I would have the upper hand and how would you suggest using it in my advantage?
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Nah not too fast
Yea I’m sure it’s the same thing. This is because black chicks are generally considered at the bottom of the sexual hierarchy in terms of desireability
Just be confident and assume the sale. Don’t try to “win girls over”
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Appreciate it. Just today I came across a perfect example of fucking up, but not knowing what I should’ve done better.
Translation:
Her question : When is the last time you made a friend
My answer: 12 years ago, real friends are hard to come by.
Her answer: 3 months ago in the train
Her: They are vert hard to come by!
Me: Haha says the lady who met one 3 months ago in the train.
Her: Yes, she became a good friend even to this day.
Me: Love spontaneous things like that crossing your path
Me: So you’re an open minded person
Her: Yes, always exciting
Her: Depends
Her: Not always
Her: Pretty limited
Me: Giving a situation like that an opportunity to grow into something more sounds open minded to me
Her: Yes in situation like that I’m open 💯
Me: Love it
Me: Think we would go along just fine
Her: Based on what?
Me: Mindset
Me: Mindset & vibe are the most important aspects to me
Her: You don’t know a lot about my mindset.
Her: But okay
Me: True, almost nothing. But a situation like that says something about a person
Her: Ok
Me: What do you look for on Bumble?
Reading it back looks like I’m chasing too much. Noticed it in the convo as well. Tried to hold a frame of I know what I want, but no idea how I could’ve made it more interesting and get her to invest a bit more..
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