Got a way to frame this as a home date instead? Or should I just go for the bar date:

"What a time to live. Let's do it. What's your schedule like"

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Fair enough, you might be right. Still figuring things out as I go, it was a mindfuck to find out that she wanted a relationship before and that was one of the reasons she broke up w me (she felt unvalued and wanted me to do the relationship talk) so it's not as black and white as redpill wisdom applying to every situation. But I still have more experience to collect before I can form my opinions on a situation like this more fully. You might be right or wrong from how I currently see it about neediness being the main factor, I think it contributed to the breakup but idk if it's really at play now

Can you elaborate on your second point

Me.

When we were together I thought she didn't want a full relationship but turns out she did and she was frustrated I never asked her to be my gf (only found that out the other day). So I told her yesterday as we cuddled, "just to be clear, cause weve had pretty shit communication in the past, where I'm at is I would want more than this w you, I'd wanna properly be w you, but it's cool if you don't want that" and she said "yea I don't see you romantically anymore, just as a friend"

Met up today. Talked about the reasons behind the breakup, for her it was just the fights really bothered her way more than they bothered me. Like apparently she felt nauseous at one point from a fight. I meditated 2 hours today before meeting up with her so I was feeling pretty solid / abundant / stable, and was able to approach the convo from an unreactive standpoint and non-biasedly talking to her about the issues we had.

There was light kino / sexual tension from the start (e.g. arms brushing as we walked) so I sensed something might happen. (I also went into it hoping something would happen, and put myself in a headspace of how I'd game a girl on a first date, feeling like the shit, kinda alpha-lover headspace too. But combined with being my authentic self.) Ended up at some point with my arm resting against her body, then my arms around her from the back saying I was just using her for heat (but at that point our cheeks were touching, lots of sexual tension), went for the kiss but she said no, then we talked more (about the options we have: friends, no contact, friends w benefits, etc) while the sexual tension was still there and we ended up making out and then she got really wet and she ended up coming with me to my place to fuck. Lmfao

And luckily I happened to have 1 single condom on me by chance so we were able to fuck with no issues. Good sesh too, lasted a long time. We won't "date" again but we may be FWB, or maybe not, who knows, but either way:

1. feels much better to know the main issue was the fights / incompatibility, and not that I'm lacking in some other way
2. nice ego boost to have fucked her too

Kk were meeting tmr. Rekindling doesn't seem likely. But at least we'll get to talk

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"Don't give up now"

Awesome ty