WEEKLY LIVE Q&A (Sunday 6PM-8PM EST) with ME & IndianPE************************
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
Welcome to the weekly live Q&A with IndianPE
Have all your questions answered in real time by the creator of PWF and Indian PE (If you're not familiar with him, check out this 2 part interview I did with him)..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIN8SOjOd4U
This will start Sunday August 18th at 6pm EST and go for 2 hours. Just write your questions below in this post. See you guys then :)
Alex
What does it take to improve your textgame. Do you change your textgame depending on the kind of girl you’re taking to. What are the types of girls you may talk to on tinder and how do you dhv differently for each of them
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
You don't so much change your style as you do relevance. Let me give you an example. I was waiting on a doctor friend I have and while she was with a patient, I was chatting up with her husband. He's late 50s and been married for most of his life. So, me talking about PWF will not be relevant to him the slightest. However, I used to work in sales a long time ago and he has been in sales all his life. So, there is a lot of relevance overlap there. Had a very interesting conversation. So, with girls who have tattoos, I will talk about tattoos. With girls who are from Colombia, I will tell stories about my travels to Colombia. There are of course numerous universal subjects as well, but you get the picture. You don't so much change your game but pay attention to what is relevant to that person.
Let me know if you have any follow up questions :)
Why is it that girls can text 3-4 times in a row and still not really be interested or invested, but once a guy texts 3 in a row it's a death sentence? Isnt it still ok to send 3 texts as long as they are value texts that dont require a response?
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If you frame her as being "innocent and shy" and she says Yes or agrees with that should they be screened out? Have you ever had success with those shy prudish girls from Tinder or screen them out and go for one of your matches that are more DTF and want to prove you wrong by saying "im definitely not shy!"
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
It all has to do with who the buyer and the seller is. For instance, with my booty calls, or close friends, I might actually send 4 texts in a row because I know that they will still be interested in me because of all the previous value. Similarly, a hot chick who I have never met but has huge tits can quadruple text me and I will still meet up with her. However, if it was a chick I was already on the fence about, the subconscious awareness of her neediness might just make me pass on her
Unless, you have already banged the girl several times or are an extremely high value guy, chances are that you are the seller and she is the buyer. Thus, you typically can't afford to seem needy, especially with all your competition. Let me know if any part of that doesn't make sense
Thanks I get it typically girls feel like the buyer by default... but once we provide value then it shifts and we become the buyer. I just often wondered why when i just start talking to the girl and she texts me 3-4 times and im thinking "wait...why is she texting me so much like this" but i still have the feeling she could still walk away at any time because I haven't built enough value yet
What do you do when you start the soft close "Do you like wine?" And she's giving you a hard time like saying "Not really" so you ask "What do you prefer" and she says "I don't drink"? Where do you go from here, do you need to go back to building positive compliance momentum and go back to getting her to qualify again and build investment before going for the soft-close again?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
First, I would make sure that the girl is sufficiently invested before going for the soft close. If she is and still gives that kind of a response, it would actually be a little bit of a redflag for me that she might actually be a prude. While I have seen numerous exceptions, there's definitely a strong correlation between a lack of drinking and prudeness. So, first thing I wanna do, is to get to the bottom of if she drinks or not. "Ah! Lemonade kinda girl". At that point, she's likely to clarify whether she does infact drink or not. If she doesn't drink, I would probably go for a hard screen to make sure I'm not wasting my time, something like "Ok, but are you a boring non-drinker or fun non-drinker"
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I'm 5'8. Do you think adding my height to my profile (I'll blemish a couple inches and say 5'10) will increase my SMV?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
If I were you, I would just not mention height at all. If a girl actually asks, then I would say 5 10'
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What do you think is the best course of action for interactions where she is showing interest, you try and sexualize and she goes cold after?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
It means that she really wasn't into the sexting. Can you post exact screenshots? That way we can help you better
Do you use voice memos or call some of your tinder matches? Voice memos seems to be a great tool to build comfort with the girl as a lot of girls are afraid to meet strangers off the internet. I’m not sure how to use them effectively. What do you say in them? How do you initiate voice memos/calls?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
Yes, I love voice memos. Take a look at this LR where I uploaded some of my voice memos
https://www.playingfire.com/flaky-bubble-butt-latina-tinder-lay-full-text-game-breakdown/
I'm thinking about getting rid of dominant on my tinder profile because I'm starting to match with very experienced BDSM girls off tinder. Has this been the case with you?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
Absolutely not, most girls don't know shit and the ones who think they do don't know as much as they think. When you say very experienced, what do you mean exactly?
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What're the common mistakes beginners/inexperienced guys make in texting?
Personally, I feel they over-invest, jump the gun too early, and don't pay attention to details. Not gauging the girls'​ interest level.
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
Yup, I agree with those. Also, check out the article where we actually looked at this exact question :)
https://www.playingfire.com/get-better-texting-girls/
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The learning process - specifically the wit and humor. Indian PE talked about "boring conversation" as one of the biggest beginner mistakes. How do you learn to not have boring conversation? I stuggle to make a topic or to take what she has given and make it more emotionally engaging and interesting to the girl when I use any of my own lines. I don't want to be dependent on specific lines - I want to be able to generate them everyday for the specific conversation, so I can actually just use these skills with texting anyone. Like a girl I'm already sleeping with or even just a girl that's a friend or even guys. You know? What's the best way to learn the principles and make them a part of who you are? (It seems like Indian PE has completely internalized the right mindset.)
19 Posts (+84), 522 Cmts (+198)
Well. I started off with completely being okay with blowing out a bunch of leads. It's the same as cold approach. Even in Vegas, you must have observed that Alex and Mark open I don't know up to 20 girls before they take a girl home, it's the same. It's being completely okay with fucking up. All I know is I have specific goals to try to get to. And if the conversation moves away from my main motive, I try to get it back. If it's too boring, I either DHV myself or subtly sexualize. Most girls I meet online always tell that they enjoyed texting me and liked how I wasn't too pushy for the meet. I learnt in the recent past in trying to reframe everything as positive. I was able to do that quick over text but not so much in cold approach since there's too much to focus on
There's sooo many LRs powered by me now and these lines are easy to understand the context of if you just notice what those lines resulted in. Did they DHV? Did they move to soft close? OR did they sexualize. Usually it's one or more of them. And if not, it's to hold the value and not qualify yourself
Let me know if I was clear enough. lol
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
Do you struggle being witty/funny with your closest guy friends? If the answer is no, then the issue is you're just stifling yourself in these other social situations and as soon as you can learn to unstifle yourself, then the issue will take care of itself.
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Actually I don't have any close guy friends (l say this in a genuine factual way) and yes I do struggle to be witty funny with even friends. When I've been around some of the guys from game on a bootcamp and I am in that environment for a little while, it starts to come out much more. But as soon as I leave, I lose it. Probably a big part of that is I've isolated myself a lot for years while I worked on personal issues in my life, and school, and my career, and prior to that I struggled to maintain friendships all through my childhood. So for me this seems to be a deeper issue than just unstifling myself. I literally don't think of things to say in the first place in almost any situation. Every now and again when I'm feeling really good about myself and my stress is very low, I will get into "state" where I'm wittier and funny with people. But it's rare and not within my control so to speak.
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This!
How does Indian PE do it? Is it the Kombucha.
19 Posts (+84), 522 Cmts (+198)
Some Naked Whey protein shakes do the trick ;)