Tinder Update

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K

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Hey guys. This message will be sort of long but I want to explain the current situation without writing a book. I find myself spending a lot of time on tinder (not necessarily good, but reality). I have tinder plus as well. My first issue is I find myself matching with girls, sometimes hot ones sometimes average ones but I seem to never meet up with them. My ROI just seems bad. How do I do a better job screening for girls not DTF/DTF. Recently, I feel like I am matching/entertaining girls that are bored, and/or never have intentions of meeting up. At some point I plan to get the blueprint. I have lived in the same town since I was 5 years old, and occasionally I find myself matching with girls that I know off but I was not tight with in HS which ended in 2015. There is currently 1 match that I have not opened yet as I do not know what the frame should be since she half knows me. Moreover, I think I matched her in the past and she "flaked". How would you open this given the fact that she is ON TINDER (I feel like guys miss that common sense part), she sort of knows me, she flaked a year ago I believe, does not live far, and was at least in HS a party girl.....

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Aaron Johnson Avatar

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Hey man, there's not nearly enough detail here to diagnose what your issue is. What would help is if you posted screenshots of the entire conversation from 1-2 recent examples.

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K

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Ok: So unfortunately I didn’t save the rest of this conversation.... She actually unmatched about 45 min ago..... the conversation went to me sort of telling her that I won’t hook up with her if I don’t like her.... so I told her she was being a bit far fetched thinking I’d hook up right away.... She then went about saying how she doesn’t meet strangers at their house.... I said bring pepper spray etc...... Then the last final comment that made her unmatch was What’s Your biggest turn on.... Her hinge profile said she was sarcastic, which she shows here. Input would be appreciated. I guess it is the notion of a girl just literally not being instant pulled no matter the sexting/skill vs knowing that errors were made...... What are your thoughts?

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avilench . Avatar

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NO OFFENCE DISCLAIMER .... I am going to be brutally honest, this is some of the worst "text game" I have seen in awhile . The only surprise to me is that the girl kept replying for so long . Probably the biggest issue is that your whole vibe comes off creepy and even a little socially autistic. I was personally cringing by the second screen shot .
First and foremost, you need to work on learning social calibration . Learn to understand how a woman would feel to your actions. Start with the basics . No more sexting . No more "straight to the house" dates. Your goal is to learn basics social skills and get a girl to meet you for a drink . You might be thinking " What the fuck man" , but from what I see if you don't learn the fundamentals you will continue to endlessly struggle . It is like building the house on quick sand , without putting concrete first.

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Aaron Johnson Avatar

10 Posts (+141), 139 Cmts (+107)

Definitely let Alex weigh in here, but a few things you can work on:

  1. Your sexualization isn't well calibrated. She's giving you low compliance with your efforts to sexualize, and you keep trying to push it forward, which creates negative compliance. See the article I wrote here: https://www.playingfire.com/how-to-build-compliance-sexualize-over-text/
  2. You're trying to move the conversation forward at the wrong points. She's not giving you a lot to work with, and yet you try to go for the date anyway. The right time to set up the date is when she's highly invested and compliant, you are pitching it when she isn't there.

After her last message, you could have replied: "Nah, I'm over meaningless hookups. Rather meet a cool girl I have chemistry with" or something to that extent.

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