Fam, 9 wine dates last 6 weeks. Went 5/9 in closing.. that is horrendous. Usually fucking done deal, not sure what’s good. Have my standard first make out, then pull away. Then heavier make out, pull away. Then throw them on my lap heavy make out, grabbing ass, kissing neck, make them suck my fingers. Then I hit my caveman strut, pick them up in my arms bring them to bedroom. Wear that LMR been kicking my ass of late. I know this is shit test, these girls came here to fuck. I tried playing the nicer “addressing concern route” .. don’t work. Also keep in mind I’m bearded, jacked, and covered in tats... girls that fuck w me want to be dominated. Was thinking about hitting them with “this is the part where you put my dick in your mouth” . Or maybe it’s time to graduate to whipping it out ? Act unbothered and tell them they can leave ? Any best practices from some of the more advanced guys on running wine dates be much appreciated.
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what kind of objections are you getting exactly to sex? If a girl doesnt fuck you, you should know the why afterwards. The whipping your dick out thing a very powerful and effective move. For me that was a huge game changer when it came to increasing my closing rate. And everyone who i taught it who used it also said the same thing. it is most effective tho when used at the right time Typically. After you made out with the girl. Ideally, when your on the bed at that point, the girl is already horny and somewhat into you. When you whip your dick out she sees that your going to cum anyway so she wants to join the party.
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“I don’t know if I want to have sex tonight” 3 of them
“I don’t have sex an hour after meeting someone” other one.
I get to heavy making out / touching feeling every time. Light choking and hair pulling with all 4....I’m not vocal though. Think I need to start whispering dom shit in their ear. Also you whip it out and lead there hand orrrr just whip it out and continue making out etc. ?
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Hey man, 5/9 is still good closing rate. I'm not sure which type of girls you're pulling, but there are some girls who wouldn't have sex on the first night even though they came to your place. The fact that they are heavily making out with you means you've done things right. Other reason can be: you're coming up too strong, you're desperate to close (they can sense it), you're reactive, they have a period, they have other dudes in orbit...etc. In any case, don't overthink it. Just make sure you do proper game/escalation. It's a numbers game!
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Thanks dude. Idk the last like 20 before them were closed with same shit I always do. Girls aren’t dumb feel like if they’re coming strait to your place they are expecting to get fucked? Numbers game it is, got some experimenting to do in this area. Will keep y’all posted.