So i went through my chats from a year ago or so and found out that i used to close with '' ....., when will we go on that romantic date ? ;)'' and who would have thought that it would rarely work, but i didn't know better.
I wanted to test this close again with my current knowledge and skills so i collected 20 matches over the last month and closed 10 normally and the other 10 with '' ....., when will we go on that romantic date ? ;)'' to see how much difference it would make.
In the ''normal close'' group i set up 6 dates so 6/10 in the '' ....., when will we go on that romantic date ? ;)'' group i set up 0 dates so 0/10 times, one chick just said: ,,idk''. ( i could have turned that around, but for this experiment i didn't)
The results are just baffling, i did nothing different than the close and i got not one date set up in the second group.
Why do you guys think that is ? is it because it sounds ''beta'' (the man not taking the lead) or because women are so indecisive and once they have to decide something they just lose interest ?
I would really like your input on this, this really interests me.
Your experiences with bad or weird closes are welcome as well of course.
Women will always wait for the man to make the first move. You have to take the lead and make it happen. Women also don't want to think when texting a guy; you have to make it as easy as possible for her. Think of it this way, if you had SO MANY matches and messages on dating apps/texts that it gets overwhelming and you don't have time to think/plan while also working or studying, wouldn't you just want somebody to take the lead and make it easier for you? Btw, I am a woman.
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Good to get a womans perspective on this, thanks for the info.

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Hell yeah, way too beta. You hit it on the head, not taking the lead. Also, the winky face comes across in a not so good way in this context as well, too soft on an already soft line, & it’s almost used as tho you expect her to take the lead & that you’re the gift. Which normally yes we want that frame of ourselves being the prize she has to work for, but that didn’t work there because it followed behind a beta display of action. Hope this helps.
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Sounds logical, thanks for the response.