LR: Short, Curly Haired Big Booty Tinder Girl

I've been getting 1:1 coaching from Indian PE. We've started this coaching by having Indian PE taking over entire exchanges for me - with the plan to debrief after each lay, for him to break down for me exactly the process and thinking behind each of his messages.

Well, less than a week later, I've had my first close thanks to Indian PE's direction (another close last night came with a lot of his help, and there are quite a few strong leads in the pipe for this week). I had only seen bits and pieces of Indian PE's text game from the PWF group in the past, so seeing it in full action, I've got to say that Indian PE's text game is AMAZING. His ability to calibrate and understand the meaning behind each women's texts, and formulate the exact best response, is ridiculous. I've seen it now across some ~2 dozen Tinder conversations plus numerous text bounces he's been helping me manage.

What I love about his game is that it brings all of the great things that Alex and David teach in the Playing with Fire product, but with a playful edge that is really congruent with my personality. He's unbelievably strong at building investment over text - I didn't actually understand just how possible this was until the lay in this LR took place. I unfortunately don't have the natural SMV some of the other guys have (working on the things I can control, of course!), and I'm realizing from his coaching how critical this investment building is to closing for guys like me.

Within Indian PE's help, she agreed to a wine date at my place. The lay itself was really straightforward. Indian PE's messaging eliminated any LMR - we had a half a glass of wine and within 20 minutes she was naked on my bed.

Afterward, I asked her a few questions to understand her mindset about agreeing to the meetup. As you'll see from the last message in the exchange, she clearly expresses a concern about "not looking to be misled" like she was in the past; I asked her to elaborate on this after we had sex. She told me she had too many meaningless hookups, and that she was now intentionally screening out guys who felt like they were going to be those. The way "I" (Indian PE) handled this objection made her feel comfortable. I also asked her why she chose to met up with me specifically. She said the conversation felt comfortable to her, and that she particularly liked the "wittiness" of it. In other words, it was Indian PE's text game that closed the deal here.

LR: Hot, Amazing Body Thai Girl

Despite the simplicity of the texting, there should be some good value in this for many people, on the topic of using disqualification. I am continuing to work with Indian PE for coaching, so once again he ran the show here, and props to him.

I had exactly two nights in Thailand, sort of as a buffer between the end of a vacation and work travel. First of all, Thailand was true white god mode from a SMV perspective. Two boosts, and ~12 hours later, and I ended up with over 250 new matches. While 80% of my matches back home I'd consider between a 6 and a 7, 80% of these girls were 7-8+. I was able to be way more picky in my swiping. Despite the high match volume, we couldn't get girls to agree to meet. My theory is that despite the significant SMV increase for white men in Thailand, there's also a strong stigma as white guys go there for sex tourism, making girls reluctant to meet, especially when using heavy sexualization (the girl in this LR gave me some evidence for this in person, which I'll touch on below).

So, Indian PE decided we needed to switch to being more disqualifying. On top of the sex tourism stigma, we also realized that despite my improved SMV, these girls were still hot and get the same kind of chodey sexual messages. So we needed to stand out and disqualify to get them to agree to spontaneously meet up. You can see this pivot happen when she replies, "Me? Whats your weakness?" Whenever we'd reply, "A great booty" or similar, girls would start to disappear. So instead, we started disqualifying.

Lo and behold, it worked with one of the first girls we tried it on, and this girl was quite hot in my book. She quickly agreed to the meet on my hotel's rooftop bar, and Indian PE and I agreed that it made sense to continue to disqualify hard when I escalated in person. Once she agreed to meet, the only meaningful objection she threw was about her poor English, which was easily handled by promising to talk slow and help her practice.

She came wearing a tiny little crop top, and I was instantly hard. Her body was absolutely fantastic, better than the pictures advertised. We went to the rooftop bar for a drink, and I worked on building comfort initially. Then I followed the game plan, escalating physically and verbally while also disqualifying ("I can tell I'd love to eat your pussy, and you'd have so many orgasms, but I just can't do that tonight."). She mentioned how she knew Thai girls find me really attractive, further evidence of the drastically improved white SMV there. Then she raised the objection, a few times: "You must do this with a lot of Thai girls" - that stigma that I was there just for sex. I didn't want to agreeing and exaggerate, because her English was really poor, and I knew she'd think I was telling her she was right. So I went with various versions of "I work too often to have much fun."

Finally, after bragging about my massage skills, I told her I would give her a massage but then kick her out, because I had to be up early the next day. TBH, I don't think she understood what I was saying, but she agreed. So I took her by the hand, and we went back to the hotel room. Some minimal LMR, she wouldn't let me take her pants off at first, so I started fingering her under them. Then I went for the good old fashioned "whip your dick out and put her hand on it" - it was on from three. Smashed three times that night, ending with a mutual extremely intense orgasm at the same time. She was a great kisser, very passionate sex, and she absolutely drenched my bed, cumming more times than I could count. I had to kick her out at 5:30 to catch a flight, which was disappointing because she could easily be at the top of my rotation if she didn't live halfway around the world.

LR: Nerdy Hipster with Strong Frame

This girl was super dorky and nerdy, pretty cute with a nice body. The biggest takeaway from this LR is persistence and maintaining a strong frame. Indian PE jumped in at a few points here to help me, though I think that the dominant frame during the fuck date was what ultimately sealed the deal.

You can tell from the messaging/texting that this girl thinks highly of herself. In person, she was cute, but definitely not enough to have quite the ego that she has. Still, she held this frame the entire time, including during our 1+ hour sex session.

I knew she was going to be DTF, and by projecting an extremely dominant frame with lots of eye contact, closing was really straightforward with no LMR. No alcohol involved, I complimented her booty and grabbed it within a minute of her walking in the door, and no more than 15-20 minutes in and we were naked on the bed.

The sex was intense. But every time I tried to be dominant, she'd try to flip the frame back at me. Me: "You fucking love my dick, don't you, you little slut?" Her: "Well I can tell your dick loves my pussy." On, and on, and on. No amount of choking, spanking, shoving multiple fingers in her mouth, or anything else would get her to submit. I had plenty of fun with it, enjoying her brattiness and continuing to get rougher and rougher trying to get her to submit. Of course, I didn't break my dominant frame, so I just kept choking and biting until there were marks all over her back and smacking her ass until it was bleeding - she managed to just persist and persist.

After sex, she told me she was used to pussy guys who constantly complimented her and were easily dominated by her, and how she gets bored of them quickly. She told me about the guy who regularly takes her out to $300 dinners to get her attention, and I laughed at it telling her, "Well, I'm not going to be that guy." Finally, this is when she finally broke and told me she hadn't been fucked like that in ages. She went from saying things like "I know you're going to be sad if I don't text you tomorrow" during sex to asking me when I was free next. The power of giving a girl the ultimate sexual experience!

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Good Stuff!!! I enjoyed following your journey :)

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