19 year old Hired Gun Lay Report ~Calibrated Persistence and Sexualization~

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Quick Notes before the report: A couple of the lines showcased here are not 100% original. I asked for help in the facebook mastermind group with this girl. Special thanks to John Anthony, Alex Vilenchik, Nitin Pabba, and David Swift for the inspiration in terms of what to say in certain cases. Also feel free to critique me here. I didn't post this to brag but rather to give back to my favorite community and I am not 100% perfect so all input helps in its own way.

Match: This girl I matched with was a 19 year old from tinder. Her photos are generic young girl photos (includes most with friends or dogs, most photos look like they were shot on calculators) and ~spoiler alert~ she follows a lot of the younger girl archtype tropes (low investment, requires persistence, feigned innocence). Her bio says, "who's cuter, Me or my Dog?" My bio is similar to the one David put in the website and the youtube video.

I hit her with the hey trouble and she instantly shit test me. I used one of the lines from the google docs in the mastermind group to crush it and then move on to start qualifying her. She invests with the "you? Mischeif... no couldn't tell." I also think its a little bit of a shit test so i start to get excited here cuz girls who like me love to shit test me. I use the opportunity to DHV with my bio (thanks David Swift) and pass the shit test by owning it (not getting butthurt that she called me a troublemaker). She qualifies by saying she liked that I put dogs in my bio, and I qualify her back by noting that she has one of my weaknesses and ask if she has more to get her to qualify herself to me. I stole the next line from someone on the group, I think it was Nick but I don't remember exactly. She qualifies hard by saying she has a nice ass and I use the opportunity to compliance test and sexualize more. I run the booty massage lines responds positively so I move to text.

I use a standard text opener and start to banter a bit more since some time passed between getting her number and sometimes girls can forget that they gave me their number. I used the "cum watch me lift heavy things" to sexualize a bit more and she shit tests again. I think i passed it with the hot tub mention but i mostly just kinda ignored it and continued to be direct with my purpose. The first major problem arises when I bring up that she's a 50 minute drive away. She lowers investment and eventually ghosts me.

This is where the persistence comes into play. She also gave me her snap in the tinder convo. I hate adding girls on snap as opposed to just their number because I have never gotten a lay from it but I thought I'd lose a really invested girl if I didn't. My suspicions were basically confirmed when I add her on snap a bit later and she says that she wants to hang out but she doesn't want to drive up to me and justifies ghosting with that (I stg sometimes girls have the weirdest thought process). I continue to be persistent and solve the objection by saying I could drive down to her.

She says it can't happen then cuz her parents are always home. I try to solve this objection by saying my romantic and roomy car would work. She says she needs more in this so I take it as the opportunity to sexualize and start running my lines (It was long af and I dont feel like posting them but the gist is that she loved it). She starts investing again because my sexts were really good. She sends nudes and tells me she loves sucking cock, two really good signs. We work out logistics and find out that her parents will be gone for a bit on one day.

Date: I head over that day. The car ride was actually less than 50 minutes but hot girls are used to these things coming easier to them so I don't really blame her. I greet her with strong posture and good eye contact at her door. I give her a big hug and she reciprocates eagerly, a good sign. I then greet her dog, who runs at the door to see me, and her older sister, who watches her lead me down to their basement (lmfao). Down there is a couch, tv, some miscellaneous shit, and this nordic skiing device. I build comfort by trying the skiing device and putting on the tv because I was actually really nervous. I maintained eye contact and good posture of course but in my mind I was thinking that this girl was actually hotter than her pictures, which she looks good in despite the terrible quality of most. I sit close to her on the couch and look at her intensely as I talk to her. I can tell she loves it because she gives me the anime eyes and looks a little nervous herself. She pulls out her juul and asks if I want a hit. The date had been going on for about 5 mins so I use the opportunity to tell her, "I guess... but what I really want a hit of, is you." And start kissing her. It was really cheesy I know but she reciprocates well and I start escalating from there. I roll on top and start kissing and biting her neck as I grab her ass, which was very hot btw. I start playing with her nipples and she loves it. I go down on her and she didn't respond as well as I liked so I just switched to using john anthony's fingering tecnique and she goes crazy. She starts wanting me to put it in her. At first I use a condom but later I go in raw. We fucked for two episodes worth of "diners drive ins and dives" (we left it on the whole time) and I still don't finish. She tries to hide that she's upset by that so I try to make light jokes about it. We relax on her couch after and she starts telling me a lot of impressive stuff. She had about 400 matches on tinder, which made me feel a bit unique (I have no idea how many she met with). She works as a waitress at the 99 (hence the hired gun in the title) and she was a champion for d3 track as a freshman in college. She tells me that I'm really hot and kinky (I was trying to be like Christian Grey every chance I got so that felt good) and she likes that a lot. I drive home after we finish chilling for about 30 minutes.

Stuff to note: This required a lot of persistence and good calibrated sexualization on my end. People in the community talk about the importance of not being needy over results, and that is of course correct. It is completely fine however, to be persistent in a smart and calibrated way. Alex wrote that the "needy guy is needy because he needs the result, where as the persistent guy persists because he wants the result." Most girls I talk to about this appreciate persistence. This girl told me that she liked that I went after what I wanted. If i quit when she stopped responding to my texts, I would've lost a really interested girl. The second problem came when I brought up the idea of fucking in my car. She doesn't want to fuck a virgin in a cramped place so she wanted some assurance. If I didn't sext or sent weak sexts I might not have gotten the lay. I set up my sexts well by complaince testing early on in the interaction. The calibrated persistence and good sexting helped me a lot here.

Thanks so much for reading! Please give me feedback

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avilench . Avatar

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Great stuff man! I'm glad you remembered my quote about persistence. It's definitely true. A lot of guys in the community are so worried about being needy, they wind up giving up way too fast. In reality though, you can be extremely persistent without being needy as was the case here. Also, props on doing a solid write up. That really helps cement the lessons/takeaways in your mind and ultimately get good faster. And, of course it provides value to other guys. I look forward to reading more of these in the near future :)

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First of your not bragging! Value bomb thx keep them cumming! šŸ”„

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Where is the rest of the screenshots?

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Over snapchat. I asked if I could take them but she's been busy

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