For context: I've read through all the guides about closing back at your house, "the point of no return", etc. and honestly I think I've done a pretty good job applying all the tips. I've been on two dates with this short, decently hot latina chick, both at my house. Both times we split some wine, watched a show, and made out for a long time (I initiated and cut it off), we also made out after I walked her to her car both dates. The second date was weird though, we were making out, I kissed down her neck, got her tits out, kissed her tits, etc. and kept at it for a while but she was wearing a bodysuit thing so I couldn't take off her shirt. When I asked if she wanted to keep going she smiled, hesitated and said no so we kept kissing. I tried to take the body suit thing off after a bit but she smiled and said "no" again. I'm not sure what I could have done better here and i'm getting kind of pissed. I'm objectively out of her league (not being a dick or anything but she's clearly chasing me here: she's super responsive over text, has literally driven an hour to my house for both dates, tries to hold my hand every time we walk, texts me as soon as she gets back from our dates, etc.). I've also been with much hotter girls and have more girls in the pipeline so I'm not really invested in this but I have no idea why she's not going all the way. Has anyone else been in this situation? What should I do? Is this a waste of time? I'm tempted to just ghost her but then again, I've already gotten decently far with her and feel like sex should definitely be possible but I feel like she's shy or self-conscious or something. I'm not sure what I could be doing wrong considering she keeps demonstrating investment and seems way more into the kissing and texting and stuff than I am. I definitely do not want to get in a relationship or anything. Would really appreciate some advice, never been in this situation before.

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I've banged girls from dates that wore onepieces so that's not it. What do you mean by help you out? Like taking her clothes off herself? It's pretty uncommon for me that girls take off their clothes on their own accord. Besides, it should be on you as the man to lead. It sounds like she didn't actually say no at any point on the first date and it was just you randomly stopping, which makes no sense, and she was probably as confused as I am. Next time, you should just keep escalating until you get a no.

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You’re probably right, I appreciate it. By “help me out” I meant she was lying back on my couch in a way that made it hard for me to get her clothes off without either her moving or me moving her, but I definitely should have kept escalating.

What would you have done on the second date? I escalated more this time, kissed down her neck to her tits but still got the “no” twice when I tried to slowly get the shirt fully off.

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