The original post and all previous messages that lead up to this point can be found here: https://forums.playingfire.com/posts/baited-dead-lead-into-sexting-how-to-convert Alex, I respect your advice that going for sexting/asking for nudes is a generally suboptimal strategy. Given that I had tried the more normal route with this girl and she ghosted for no good reason shortly before we would have met up, I decided it would be worth it to go for a Hail Mary play. She had hookups as one of the things she’s looking for in bio and her profile said something about the end about looking for someone to do things in and out of bed with. That was a big reason I thought my hail my could be showing her the big D (+ video of some dominant sex) to demonstrate sexual value. I’ve done this before where I send stuff without asking for investment in return and I feel like it has to much of a selling frame on my end instead of a collaborating, we’re both investing frame. I’m thinking it’s easier for her to backwards rationalize her investment (I invested bc Im turned on and intrigued by this guy). I wanted to make sure she invested closer to equally and she was def turned on by it (p*say was clearly wet in pic). If there’s another play you would have recommended in the spot I was in, I’m definitely open to hearing it. Moving to the present moment now. I’ve uploaded how the rest of the conversation went. This girl picked a date to hangout and I agreed + proposed a meetup spot to which she ghosted again. Probably this is dead and there isn’t much to do here, but perhaps you guys can suggest some last ditch effort that could be made here. The last text from me was last sat night, about a week ago. Thanks and I hope you guys are having a kickass start to the new year -Rob

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Hey, I appreciate the breakdown and I understand your logic more now.. However, I would still argue that you massively overdid it with the nudes. It's interesting that you are ultimately able to move things forward a bit. At this point, I would just use a takeaway

"If youre too nervous, Id understand " or "I genuinely didnt take you for the flakey type"

I think another potential downside of exchanging nudes is that if the girl is in a non sexual mood.. the day of the date.. shes more likely to back out cause at that point shes thinking if she meets up w you, she has to fuck you.

A long time ago, I played around with sending a video of me fucking a girl to girls as a last ditch effort, if they were being non compliant. It worked a few times... but most of the time, it did not. And I eventually abandoned the strategy after it lost me multiple dates that I otherwise could've gotten. Just my 2 cents

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She’s most definitely shown multiple times to be flakey so can’t use that one and I’ve already kinda used the nervous thing as I’ll show in a screenshot of where we were at before I threw the Hail Mary. If you have any other ideas/suggestions for a last ditch text I’m open.

Appreciate you taking the time to respond

-Rob

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actually if she has flaked multiple times, then that text is perfect

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