Opened this girl in a 4set. Talked to her for like 10 mins and isolated + made out with her while setting up the date for the next day since I couldn't pull. When I set it up she gave some pushback around doing it near me but I decided to try anyways. Ideas on what to say? Normally I'd figure "I genuinely didn't take you for the flakey type" in a couple days but I think she's jsut pissed about me not giving in so I should prob say something more genuine like "hey didn't mean to be disrespectful, just thought I could show you a better time in {my area} since I'm more familiar. i still genuinely want to meet you". Also for context, it's like a 10 minute uber between the two places so it's just a principle thing for her
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48 Posts (+1), 74 Cmts (+11)
agreed this is weird. how long do you think i should wait to send the "are you that upset" text?
also, normally when they push back i give in and it's cool because they've already been clear they're not gonna budge. what would you have said instead of my second to last text?
393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)
just 48 hours is good.
And no, you dont want to give into shit all the time. sometimes it's better to hold frame. In response to her last message I would have said "damn, you really hate travel that much"
48 Posts (+1), 74 Cmts (+11)
thanks alex.
do you have any tactical advice on when/how to hold a strong frame without looking aggressive/pushy/needy? i've struggled with this on dates too. have seen the majority of your tactical videos and the frame control ones, but don't think you have anything specifically on this topic.