I NEED HONEST FEEDBACK FROM PEOPLE WHOSE GAME GOOD ; So I am going to give as much as detail I can give; I met this girl daygaming and talked to her for 5 min or less and got the number last week and in my other post I shared the screenshots so last the same day I set up the date for today at my house.So today we met around 6 and she clearly put the effor to look good because she was not this pretty when I met her and we walked to super market , chit chatting about the day and how was the week etc laughing throwing jokes and I am kinda escalating ; taping her shoulder and touching her hand a bit so we got what we needed and then start walking to home again , I started to kind of give more intense eye cotant while walking and talked about her.Make her qualify and keep the frame because she started to test me and she started to ask a lot and she was doing the most invesment and then we finally got home, she was kinda nerveous and tense so I gave her a glass of wine and put some light slow music and we started to cook and I did most of the work.Whole time she is smiling laughing and I am tryna escalate more slowly and tryna challange her and stuff and then I was done with cooking and I said to plate the food and then we went to living room.She sat kinda next to me but I was not comfortablly reaching out to her so I sat like that a while , slowing down my voice and givr intense eye contact , she was wearing shorts and I started to toıuch her legs lightly and then I said that '' aye you smile a lot'' she responded and etc then I grabbed her hands and said '' yo lets play a game whoever smiles first and break eye contact loses'' so I got her hands and made super intense eye contact and then she smiled and then laugh so I was like yoo dont sit there , get comfortable and I just hopped a bit to the side towards her and then pulled her over so she is like literally almost on my lap, I play with her , caress her cheek and then tryna make eye contact but she was looking at staright to the wall and I said '' yo somebody is shy ha and turned her head a bit towards me and she kept looking at me for a while and then turned back and while these happening I kinda make the convo a bit sexual and kept talking and etc then I slowly started to touch her leg and shit and I did it slowly step buy step and then I started to cares her whole leg with my fingers grabbing touching and she was totally okay with it yet I went down a bit far and before that happened she said that she has to leave soonand I thought yo Metin this is your chance make it or lose it so yeah I went a bit down too far so she kinda replaced herself got a bit far and then from there I didnt try to escalate again bc she was gonna leave again.and when we were walking she said that '' I even make my friendships slowly and I dont kiss on first date and do things'' Like where did I do wrong and where did I do right? I am new to game like it has been 3 weeks maybe but before that I was reading and watching shit but this forumwith PWF but also UMP helped me a lot.But I started to feel like I am gonna die as a virgin and alone bc i already got frasturated.Like I never meet girls who are DOWN TO FUCK.I always meet with the innocent ones. Like what is a clear sign for me that I went too far too fast? when should I totally stop and when should I just chill for a few moments and then keep going? How to fuck with innocent girls? How to find DTF women? How to make sure that I close if the girl who coming doesnt have much time ?(maybe she lied idek but she has an exam on monday) how not to pussy out to go for the kiss? what is a clear sign for me to take the escalation far further? What topics we can talk about on a date that leads to sex or make her think that we gon fuck? Alexander Lindberg's video, I saw the video that he stole someone's tinder date and that woman was wild but the thing that I want to learn that she is wild inside and she knows she is so , did you make her comfortable to show her that side to you or you created a vibe that even tho she was innocent as fuck , turned into that horny and wild girl? Succsess in game also depends on screening or?Because I feel like I am fucking stupid , coudlnt even fuck one girl yet I mean until 3 weeks ago I never tried even so I couldfail but these 3 week I am really trying(not so hard still) but still no results.
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Aye man!! First of all, again and again, I should tell you that I owe you a lot and I really mean it. I understood your point, I think it is because of my ego; like I expect really great things from myself right away when I start to something new which is totally pure bullshit because nobody becomes good at something overnight. So I will be patient as you said and enjoy the process overall. She is German and she was also 22. I turned 22 yesterday, the date was on my birthday and she had a relationship last year so she has been single over a year. She is kinda nerdy, she doesn't drink or smoke weed or anything like that like sure she is a student she goes to parties but I do not know if she is wild as fuck at the parties.
Yes that is so true like when I go out to game , these innocent looking girls are easier catches in my opinion so I always go for them and when I see a girl with piercings and tattoos and smoking a cigarette I do not usually tend to go because they are either with someone or with so many girl friends hanging out together. Yet yesterday I got some balls to stop a girl who is covered with tattoos and she was with her mom. She rejected me but idgaf I got happy that I was capable of doing that. Tinder is a huge world I swear to god like after watching your content and reading it I went on a few dates and that ''How are the boys here treating you'' and then ''Start off with a nice spanking'' lines open my eye because I used it twice and none of the girls freaked out but I couldn't get to meet them ofc haha.
Yes from now on no time waster ideas, got wine at home so Imma invites them for a drink.
I will def keep this in mind.
I really tried to build a sexual tension and I think so I did it really well because when she was not even getting closing towards to end she was touching my shoulder and my hands etc but I tend to think that omg every girl is innocent, what If I disrespect them and seen as a douchebag and even tho I really wanted to get over my fear of going for the kiss I couldn't do it so it is my fault def. I always wait for confirmation from the girl like a little kid.
So the first thing I should fix with my game is that going for the make out. As I understood after the make-out things get even easier I guess and that is the time that I make the big move with escalation because the girl won't do it for me I guess. So the only obstacle in front of me so far that I don't go for the kiss, I think that the escalation that I make ie enough because I haven't experienced more but in the reality, it is not even that much of a big deal escalation.
Two steps forward and one back okay I will note it to my notebook as well!!
Yes, you told me that earlier also, normally I would be even scared to touch her leg and go even lower but when she sat next to me I remembered what you said that if she is coming home even tho I can not fuck maybe, she is expecting to be kissed.
PS; Man I feel like I can do something for you guys; like for your business the thing is I really appreciate that you help me with almost everything no matter what taking your time. So in Turkey; there are so many guys who are struggling with women and I am pretty sure they never gonna day game or anything so they rely on Instagram and tinder or these kinds of apps. I am studying translation and I know German, Turkish, English and a bit of Spanish. So if you want to create content or if you want me to translate the articles that you have written into another language so you can reach out to the clients who don't speak English. I can help you with that happily. Just offering this because everyone's effort with something and Your effort man worths more because you are doing it just to help people. I feel like I need to give back something in return
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Yeah man, you summed it up more or less. Also, don't overthink so much. It will leave you paralyzed. If a chick comes over, she is very very likely DTF and it's up to you to make it happen. Don't seek permission. Just go for it, and calibrate if there is pushback
I really appreciate the offer man. Honestly, the best thing (unless you have a popular youtube channel/website) would be to just tell everyone you know about the forums and the website. A lot of PWF was built on word of mouth. So, tell your friends :)
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I know someone who got a 250K youtube channel man; I will contact him send him the link of the forum and let me see if they willing to share or not if they share I'll send you the screenshot so you can share as well. Let me try my best.