I was studying at the library and matched with this girl pretty late at night. Here’s a quick walkthrough of the interaction: Screenshot 1) Its about 11pm and the girl just got back from a sorority event date that did not go well. I’m thinking she’s probably dtf. Screenshot 2) She jumps on the wine soft close, and says shes feeling spontaneous and has her own room. Although I have not sexualized the interaction, I think it is pretty well understood that if we meet up we would have sex. Screenshot 3) Shit test 1: Why didn’t they invite you – I flip it on her by saying I had to study and already mentioned that before Shit test 2: Fake number – I just assumed she will text me. I replied “Silly” and within 5 seconds she hits me up Screenshot 4) Just a bit of banter as we move to text. Shit test 3: interesting (Spelled like a retard) – I think she’s just trying to tease me or whatever, but I flip it as if she is impatient to meet up Screenshot 5) So she asks for confirmation, which I say “Yes of course” but also give her an easy way out by saying “Unless is past your bed time.” I like to do this because it prevents her from saying no to me but rather to the situation, and can lead to just rescheduling it. She seems down so I say “That is the best type” Now, I did not have wine at my place, so I send her a voice note saying that I could bring some beer instead. I also take this opportunity so she can hear my voice and convey I am a normal dude. She doesn’t reply, which I take as if she is having second thoughts or is asleep. Screenshot 6) I tease her for falling asleep and she replies “I promise” which tells me she might still be down to meet. But then she doesn’t reply (probably fell asleep again). I send her the last text to show I have boundaries and that I don’t want to waste my time. I think this interaction was great except for one thing: I DID NOT SEXUALIZE THE CONVERSATION It’s tinder so I’ve always implied that if you meet up with a match is to have sex, not to “split a bottle of wine,” so I’ve never felt the real need to do so. However, I feel that making her horny and sexualizing the conversation would ease the meet-up specially for these situations where I met at like 11pm and I am trying to meet up the same night. Leaving it at “sharing a wine bottle” fucked me up because it makes the interaction rely on the fact that I have to bring wine. I am not sure tho at what point in the conversation and how I should have made it sexual. What do you guys think?

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Party thing was real, it was just a shit shown with underage kids running around drunk. That's why I didn't want to go back to my own place.

And no, she was in a sorority but said she lived in an apartment complex nearby (probably with sorority friends but not in the sorority house).

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You have your own room next to a shitshow of a party? That's an asset not a liability. Would have utilised the shit out of that. Provides a perfect reason for her to come over right now. If you're invited have a drink with her for 30 seconds then "let's get out of here before we get barfed on". If you're not invited "gonna need you to make more noise, can barely hear your moans over the music"

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This

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Clever, didn't cross my mind. Thanks!

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Hmm what do you mean by building investment? Could you give an example?

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Investment is where someone is putting time, thought, energy, money, etc into the interaction and/or future meetup. For clarity you need to build her investment, you're plenty invested ;)

When I look at a conversation the first thing I notice is whether there's more blue shit than grey shit. A wall of big blue messages with occasional grey "lol" "ok" "same"? You don't even have to read the words to know the girl isn't invested.

Now on to the content. Classic investment building tools:

The open clarifying question: "You a red or white wine girl?"

The bait: "I've had a great idea" '???' "For when we meet" 'What is it??' "Only if you're feeling spontaneous" 'Tell meeeeeeh !!1!'

The leading question: "What gets you all tingly when you meet someone the first time?"

The qualifier: "Will you actually be awake? It's late and you're kind of a nerd"

The takeaway: "If you're too tired for hangs and snuggles I'd completely understand"

Disclaimer, as always don't copypaste bits of conversation randomly, all of these examples will explode if not used appropriately

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avilench . Avatar

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Nah man this is still a 100x better then trying to pull to her place

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