Joining PWF really showed me how terrible I actually am at this online dating thing.. My biggest problems are getting investment, showing value and move the conversation forward in a man to woman way. Either it’s really lame and platonic or I lose their interest. Here’s a little example of what happens pretty often. Translation: Me: the infamous “hey trouble” Girl: “Hey, trouble why haha?” Me: “I can see it in your eyes” Girl: “Hahah” Me: trying a spreadsheet opener “I don’t usually give compliments when I just meet people, but I can tell you have a great taste in men” Girl: “😑😑😑” Me: not knowing what to do “See, that’s the look in your eyes I was talking about😏” I actually know the last response was weak as fuck, but simply didn’t have an idea how to move forward. How could I moved this convo better in general? Tend to either struggle to get some enthusiasm or when a girl actually shows some enthusiasm I always find a way to kill it. Read the posts about flirting and banter and get the concept, but actually applying it fails every single time. Let me know what you guys think!
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Welcome to pwf man. If you look at this interaction it’s super clear what happened. She was initially investing a reasonable amount, your third message was super cheesy and corny which made her roll your eyes and this “oh god, is this guy serious” and then the 4th message sealed your fate
Have you gone through chapter 8 of the product? Because I very clearly say don’t be corny / cheesy and don’t invest more then the girl. Those are key rules. You’d be better off just bieng super logical. Help me understand what exactly is the struggle for you? Have you gone through the whole product and through the lay reports I put up?
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Sad thing is... I went to the chapters multiple times.
I notice that I’m actually a pretty good conversationalist in real life, but can’t get it across online. Like you said it’s better off to be super logical. I’m actually better at being logical, but I tend to keep the convo platonic. That’s why I’m trying a different route, but this shit feels corny and backfires a lot.
Stuck finding a way to be more flirty when I can’t use my eyes, smirk or touching a girl. Main reason I struggle with the online aspect of it.
Don’t really now where to start, because the contrast is really big with my real life situation.
Not to sound too cocky, but I have beautiful women doing my laundry, cleaning my house, doing groceries, on speed dial to fuck. All the things a lot of guys would want, but when it comes to online I’m terrible. Fucks with the head a little.
So long story short, biggest problem is DHV’ing, banter and smoothness in online game. Feels all forces
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Hmm there shouldn’t be that much of a difference between the two man. Real life and online are not that dufferent. And pretty much every guy who I’ve ever met who does good with real life was able to pick up online super quickly
If you meet a girl at a coffee shop and talk for a few minutes and get her number, will you be able to text her well most of the time?