Real Reasons Why A Girl Will Ghost or Flake (According to Women)

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avilench . Avatar

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avilench . Avatar

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No one fucking likes getting ghosted or flaked on. It’s unfortunately, an inevitable part of game. But, I’ve noticed some guys get flaked on a lot more then others. And while location & demographics definitely play a large role, you can also increase or decrease the chances of it happening through your actions.

In the past few weeks I’ve been doing research for a video, which involved me interviewing several girls who I’ve hooked up with and analyzing all the times in their life they’ve ever ghosted or flaked on someone and what was the underlying reason. There were some universal themes regarding what causes a girl to ghost/flake that began to emerge

  1. Boring Text Convo / Lack of Progression - Every girl I talked to said that she dislikes when a guy is always just saying “hey what’s up”, “hi how’s it going”, etc. They basically get bored and write him off. The idea is that if he’s super boring over text then he’ll be super boring in real life. Lack of progression ties into this as well. Girls who are interested in actually meeting someone will eventually get bored if the guy always just chit chats and never “makes it happen”. NOTE: You also, don’t want to go to the other extreme and become over gamey, which is unfortunately one of the most common mistakes in the pickup community

  2. Unsolicited Dick Pics - Believe it or not, these are the norm for women when it comes to online dating (and dating in general). It’s not that a lot of chicks don’t appreciate a nice dick pic, it’s that they don’t appreciate an UNSOLICITED dick pic. Simple rule of thumb, if she asks to see your cock then send a dick pic. If not, then don’t

  3. Late Night Booty Call Attempts - Even the most Dtf chicks I talked to said that they typically get annoyed when a guy hits them up at 2am. It’s not that they don’t want to fuck, but it’s that this makes them feel like an afterthought (which if were being honest is usually the truth in these situation). The solution here is simple, just hit a girl up earlier in the night. Or ideally make plans ahead of time. (Especially, if you haven’t fucked her yet)

  4. Lack of Follow up & No Real Plan - A mistake a lot of guys make is that they’re too vague when they’re making plans. Maybe, they’re worried about coming off needy. However, a girl will interpret that as a guy not being that interested and might pre emptively flake to avoid getting flaked on herself. This is unfortunately quite common. To avoid this, simply make concrete plans and always confirm the morning of (also it’s good to send some kind of flirty reminder the day before as well)

  5. Neediness - This is a universal turn off. A chick might be legitimately interested in a guy but busy with something, then she checks her phone and sees a dozen texts from him...and she immediately loses interest. The solution, is to simply not be needy. Try to think how would Dan Bilzerian handle this situation. It’s quite unlikely that he would spend his whole day blowing up one girls phone.

  6. Getting Butthurt - This will typically manifest when a girl reschedules on a guy because of some legit last minute “emergency” in her life (very common in 2020) and the guy gets butthurt. Unfortunately, that will often turn a simple reschedule into a full on flake because the girl will feel now feel wierd meeting up with that guy. The solution is to simply not make a big deal out of it when a girl needs to reschedule. Ofcourse, if this becomes a pattern, then you want to call it out in a non-butthurt way.

  7. Stubbornness - Being Confident and taking charge is good, but not when you are not able to pick up on the signals a chick is giving you. Sometimes a guy will get so focused on “his plan” that he will miss obvious signs that a girl is not into part of it. (Common one is picking her up at home or fancy dates). Eventually, the girl will have to choose between doing something she’s not comfortable with or flaking/ghosting. The simple solution is to pay attention to what a girl is communicating and calibrate your plan accordingly

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M

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lol I started sending dick pics recently, only if the vibe is right and they have already sent nudes. shocking to see the positive reception

never sent a dik pic before in my life

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avilench . Avatar

393 Posts (+1.3K), 15K Cmts (+5.3K)

Yep, it can work well as long as it’s done in the right context

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What are your thoughts on keeping the convos on Tinder and not going for the number quickly?
Usually I would send a messages and then hint at the date and shoot me your number to plan it. But now a days, I would get the number and then the lead dies out. We don’t even meet because of corona.

The main things that are hurting me is that if the girl is not willing to come right over to mine, my options have been very limited because those girls I could have got them out by meeting at a public place/cafe/bar/wherever but they’re all closed now.
Not to mention, not only do I have to filter through all the uglies now I have to filter through the people using Free passport locations. I don’t even bother swiping right on those girls, even if they’re hot, because I feel like it’s just a waste of my time. I’m trying to match with girls who are my type and willing to come straight over to my place.

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#4 has been my problem by default, but the damn corona is the reason. You get a few who will take the risk, but the others don't want to. I've been thinking of alternative forms of progression such as doing a quick video chat instead of a text check in to keep them warm for after this quarantine craziness ends.

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avilench . Avatar

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Yea corona has been a massive game changer. I’ve been able to get some out though. Personally, I’m not a fan of video chat and prefer to go all in on trying to get the meet up

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"You also, don’t want to go to the other extreme and become over gamey"

I see you mention overly gamey a few times, curious if you have any examples and sort of the reason why it fails and what would have been a better response

#4 has been tough for me, like I don't drive atm, just uber and this corona thing makes girls not want to uber

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avilench . Avatar

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Yep, take a look at this vid man, it breaks it down :)

https://youtu.be/OtozfVdEIlg

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