REAL difference between coaches and us peasants

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PWF has been really confronting the last couple of weeks. Figured a lot of you guys can relate..

I actually found out how bad my interactions are with females and my lack of skill to DHV. This brought a couple of questions to mind for Alex and the advanced guys on the forums.

If we talking the looks aspect of SMV I should score pretty decent. I get complimented pretty regularly by hot women I already know. Setting up the profile to show it, is definitely another story. But still, with sub-par pics I tend to believe I look somewhat better than some of these dating coaches.

Alex had a few featured videos with other dating coaches and not to sound butthurt or arrogant; I’m in better shape, have decent fashion and a pretty decent look overall.

That has to mean there is sooooo much value in displaying it properly and having solid game. (No shit Sherlock)

So what makes the advanced guys so much more succesful than us beginners. I’ve read every article, a lot of LR’s, all the YouTube videos and I’ve definitely got better. But looking at the last video Alex posted, taking over a members profile, I was like damn. What made him get wired to respond and calibrate that well.

The basics of flirting and banter, conversation etc. Sounds so logical and simple. But actually doing it, for me personally, is very difficult and I can’t figure out why..

I get that we need practice, practice, practice. But damn that John Anthony guy claiming to have over 1200 lays and a lot of guys out here way more attractive struggling to get a couple a month...

Just being honest, I read up a lot and I practice a lot, but I can’t seem to get the hang of it. I know this is so fucking general and generic, but I’m stuck and wanted to at least give this post a go.

Every piece of feedback is more than welcome. Maybe about your process or your personal sticking points etc. Would help a bunchhh

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It does man! I knew it was a bit too general, but you still hit it right on the head.

My confusing stems a bit from exactly what you’re saying. Like having that Hand Moody vibe is a lot easier when girls give you more to work with. I struggle with the 8’s and 9’s who are holding a frame of prove to me you’re worthy. Haven’t found a lot of females that I find really attractive who where in a more open vibe from the beginning. If they aren’t, I tend to struggle still having that Moody vibe. If it doesn’t flow natural from the start I have a hard time turning it into something that seems to flow natural.

The females that are really attractive in my opinion seem like there like “let’s give him a shot to show his worth”. Which of course is something almost every female has, but in maybe lesser degrees. So I figured it must have to do a lot with your initial SMV. But then seeing the gap between advanced guys and myself how many 9’s and 10’s they pull while they may even have a lower SMV to start with. I’m like how the fuck do they DHV themselves so properly that those females are much more invested from the beginning of the convo.

Wanted to add that I had a bio that probably was way too cocky, because I thought it displayed confidence. So turned that down a bit yesterday.

Funny you spoke about ego. Just watched your older video with Indian PE. I was like yep I need to break my ego a bit more so I can be more objective in conversations. Any tips to keep that Hank Moody “I’m interested, but at the same time you need to prove yourself as well” vibe, when a woman gives you not much to work with?

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Hm it just comes down to knowing your own worth and feeling entitled to the girl. That’s why you are pursuing her but you’re not Gonna chase or beg because you have other options. It’s kinda hard to put into words. I think by going through a lot of my examples, it shoukd be easier to imagine

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