Back in September I started getting dates and found myself in a harder position to do what the guide says about getting women over to my place. I wrote my fail reports here:
https://forums.playingfire.com/posts/overcoming-bad-logistics
https://forums.playingfire.com/posts/overcoming-bad-logistics-pt2-mindset-presence

My situation was I made some life choices before starting my dating life which added needless difficulty that I didn't realize, until I actually got an opportunity to close. I ended up buying a house out of the city center as I expected my life to go in a different direction before I knew any of this stuff. This put me in a position where I had to play in a disadvantageous position that I couldn't back out of. In the past few months, I finally learned a system that works even with the logistics issue I had. As of now I've had 5 consecutive lays with different women. Here's how I did it:

My first successful encounter was with a woman who was traveling to the states for the weekend and had a hotel room in manhattan. There was no possibility I had of ever bringing her 30 minutes out of where most of the nightlife is, so I primarily stuck to meeting her at a bar near her hotel and joining her in some rave event she already had tickets for and wanted to go to. I wasn't able to just chat with her and pull right away so spending the time with her even when she was already comfortable with me was enough for her to invite me up to her hotel, I was with her till 5 in the morning when it happened so we partied most of the night. What I learned here was this is a scenario where you need to dig enough info to have a proper plan in place. I was in this same scenario months ago which failed spectacularly. Before agreeing to go out you need to know the entire situation. If she's staying in a hotel, is she with roommates or all alone? Does she have plans after meeting with you? If so can you lead that situation? This is a lot of time and work than the kind of reports you see but it was well worth it when you can't pull to your place. I call this Shitty Logistics Plan C, it's not the best but if you get her comfortable enough she will invite you provided all the above conditions are met.

My second successful encounter happened with a woman who was in brooklyn, she had her own place and after vibing with her in the bar for about an hour we took an uber to her place. I initially suggested going to my place for more drinks since it's still early out on a weeknight. She suggested her place and it was straightfoward from there. What I've learned from this experience was leaving the option open to go to either place as long as it's a reasonable distance can lead to an invite to her place, even if it's a work night. I prefer their place on a weeknight because I notice hesitancy when they have work in the morning and they don't want to travel far out to start their day.

My third successful encounter was one where I finally closed at my place. This is where I figured out the proper conditions for the both of us that made her willing to follow through. I matched with a woman who lived in manhattan, was willing to come to a crowded brooklyn bar and just had a good vibe with her for about two hours. This was a reasonable distance for her on a friday night since it only would take her 15 min to get to that bar. When asked where I live, I usually tell them I live 10 min right above the neighborhood where the bar is. This has been really effective so far as compared to telling them my exact neighborhood I'm in, and is truthful because I can uber within that timeframe. I asked her to come to my place so we can have hang without so many people around and drink/netflix. She agreed, and in the morning took an uber home and even told me she was surprised how far she was out from home lol. My lesson here is the best strategy I have to close at my place is to find a location that is within that reasonable distance between the two of us, and as long as I mention that my place is only 10 min out (even via uber), it is persuasive enough that she's cool with it.

My fourth and fifth encounters were repeats of the second and third. All I did was follow the same formula:

• Screen for a woman near the distance of the bar scene closest to me. Prefer ones that live near there, some will just not leave manhattan, others are willing to meet in the middle.
• Does she live alone? Base your logistics on this answer.
• Meet her at the spot (try to get there before her and see if you can get more advantageous seating where the two of you can be really close side by side), give her a hug the moment you see her
• When agreeing to get the uber, just have the app ready to go if you're going to your place. Just fetch it when both of you agree, go to the bathroom and it will be there waiting for you. The less time spent will make it feel very quick for the both of you, especially if you're in a freezing cold city like me.
• Lastly, properly understand frame. Exhibit the behaviors they find attractive. Encourage conversations that interest them (talking about them is a very easy subject you can delve hours into). Engage in non-verbal escalations with these conversations that help push the needle forward. Shoulder touching -> Arm touching -> Knee touching -> at some point after this you can probably go for the waist, or make out, or just pull depending on how you read it. I didn't focus much on this post but I definitely recommend that this is the perquisite before solving any other logistical problems. Frame is what gets you in the door and the logistics will be more lenient for you once you get through.

All in all I have to say this has been successful system. Since doing so I have never experienced Last Minute Resistance, Concerns, Rejections to escalate, or even a date that did not lead to sleeping with them. Thanks Alex, I'm looking forward to the rest of the year especially as we head into warmer temperature. 👍