General Night Game Questions

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Ron Ghodke

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Ron Ghodke

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Hi All,

I've been doing cold approach for a while now and so every now and then, a couple of questions pop into my head. Rather than trying to figure out the answer solo, I'd rather ask the community and see if I can get any feedback. Here are the questions I have lingering right now. I'll type up my answers at the bottom to see if I'm on the right track, where applicable.

  1. How often does an attractive woman make eye contact with you before you open? (How often do you catch one checking you out?)
  2. How often does any woman (that doesn't work there) open you during night game? (1 woman/night...)
  3. I want to get your thoughts on this new mentality I've adopted where if I get a success, I don't feel super excited about it and if I get a rejection, it rolls off me like nothing happened.
  4. When going for the number close, do you guys like to schedule the date right then and there? It always feels forced to me.
  5. Any strategy for when I get isolation from the friends, but the friends come back to pull her away? (ex. I take her to the bar and then after 5 minutes, the friends say "WE NEED YOU!" and pull her away)
  6. Any advice on when to eject the set?
  7. Honestly, this one is so important. Any advice how to dance at the club?

1a) I would say I get hard eye-contact maybe 2 to 3 times a night. When I open those woman, I still get blown out maybe 50% of the time.
2a) I would say I get opened by a ugly woman maybe 1-2 times a night. I end the interaction quick by saying "I need to find my friends. Have a good night"
3a) Obviously, it didn't seem healthy when I typed it up. But I will say, it's very relieving when you don't have any expectation and when you don't connect any emotion to the outcome. Ideally I would celebrate the win and let the failure roll off, but at this point in my game, I had enough wins to where I don't really feel the high anymore
4a) I've been trying it. and I've been trying to make it smooth. Immediately saying "Are you free tomorrow? Let's get brunch" But I still want to hear your opinons
5a) This one I say "Oh, you found us!" but the friends are always like "WE have to go BYE!" and I can sometimes number close the target
6a) If its early in the night, go ahead and eject if its not going well. If its in the middle, try to make it go well 4 times(ex. plow the conversation again 4x), if it's late, plow 4 times till she says good night
7a) I've made friends with a few people that can dance, and they have this idea where you keep your upper body locked in a position and you move your hips. Sounds robotic but I've seen them use it and pull

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Shadeaux null

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  1. I would say depending on the kind of guy you are and what kind of 'vibe' you exude will really play into whether or not an subjectively/objectively attractive woman makes eye contact with you or gives IOI's. Though, eye contact isn't always a concrete seller of interest, it's good that you still approach. TL;DR It depends on the guy you are and what kind of vibe you give off.
  2. I typically will get approached by maybe 2-3 girls depending on where I'm at for 'nightgame', I think you've got a good idea on how to get outta that situation though.
  3. I think your mentality is useful for maximizing success/numbers, but don't let it mature into something more... sociopathic. I think we all know what happens when you look at woman and game as a numbers game. cough cough John Transthony. What I like to do is actually focus on a girl I'm into and see if there's a genuine connection. I don't just approach as many women as possible to get numbers. Focus on building a good connection rather than some superficial vibe that only gets you a number and POTENTIAL meetup.
  4. I'm a little different in this aspect because I don't necessarily like the idea of 'number closing'. I guess if all you're going for is numbers for potential dates in the future, then sure, I'd say seed a date idea in the interaction so she doesn't view the interaction as you just looking to get her number. If it were me, though, I'd find one girl that is attractive to me and one that picques my interest. I'd try to go on an instant date right there if at all possible. For nightgame, I'd try to pull her that night. You've almost got to make her think that if she doesn't take advantage of the opportunity now, she'll miss it forever , kinda thing.
  5. Not too much you can do about to be honest, but instead of sayings "Oh, you found us!", I'd gently grab her hand if she's being pulled away, look at the friends and say something like "woaah there, her name and I were just about to fall in love" or something along those lines. It sounds corny but, again, not much you can do to persuade avid cockblockers. Ultimately, though, the girl you're talking to is autonomous so she can make the decision herself. All you can do is just insert some subtle dominance with the hand grab and then some humor to lighten it up. If the interaction was going good so far, it's likely that the girl would rather stay with you.
  6. I'd say that's a good metric to go by. Though as the night progresses, it does inadvertently tend to make any advances come off as more needy considering you need to act fast if you're going to pull her. So, you'd better be on your A game later in the night to assure that.
  7. Dancing at the club is just dancing to whatever is playing. It's not like you're doing a salsa or tango or bachata (unless your club plays that kind of stuff, in which case, if you care so much about the dancing, go learn how to dance the dance lol) so just dance to the rhythm and feel the groove. It doesn't really matter HOW you dance, it matters how you dancing makes HER feel.
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Ron Ghodke

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Wow! Thank you for the response man. I really liked the part where you emphasize building an emotional connection over just playing the result. I like that a lot because I've lost interest in just casual sex but I wouldn't mind hooking up with a girl I'm genuinely emotional drawn to.

Thank you again for the reply

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Shadeaux null

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Yeah man, for me, I've had a couple instances of casual hookup sex where it was more of a "I find you attractive and you find me attractive" hookup, and after everything was said and done I just didn't feel good about it. When you actually form a genuine interest in a woman and connect with her, you will enjoy sex and everything else 10x more than just the average, typical hookup.

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Jan Kartinjak

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  1. Sometimes never, sometimes a lot. Girl from my story u commented on checked me out only once before i opened her. Its normal to get blown out 50% of the time btw
  2. Almost never to me or my friends. If shes very interested she will usually just make eye contact a whole bunch, maybe even move closer to you
  3. Good mentality to have, especially the rejection one. When i get rejected i dont care tho i go over the interaction in my head to see if i could have done something better
  4. It can work for sure tho in the moment a girl might feel like she would love to go out with you the next day but then the next day comes and she doesent feel so strongly anymore and flakes. Better to just get her investment up a bit more via texting. If u set up the date and then the next day banter a little via text its best imo.
  5. In that case i introduce myself to friends and hold a very strong frame. I quickly make the friends laugh, tease them etc and then they see im a normal, cool guy and will mostly leave me and the girl (their friend) alone. Unless they are cockblockers in which case not that much u can do.
  6. Yea pretty much agree w your anwsers here
  7. Haha dont think its important at all, dance floors are always crowded in the club so u dont have much room to show off ur dance skills anyways
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