I keep finding myself in situations where I lose compliance by being too unnecessarily gamey.
You mentioned in the April Mastermind Breakdown video that you try to put yourself in the girl's shoes and try to understand what they're thinking when they read your texts. How can I train myself to do this to be more calibrated in the future? The problem I have right now is that some girls respond well to these so-called "cringe" lines where as others will ghost like the interaction below.
I've numbered the screenshots and jotted down my thoughts on what I said. It'd be great if you could suggest alternatives and/or what you think the girl was thinking at the time she was texting me.
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Is this line redundant because she already qualified earlier? She didn't respond and I had to reopen her. I feel like it was forcing her to carrying the convo and be witty. She probably wasn't in the mood and gave up.
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If I use the word "romantic" then it makes it gamey and if I don't then I sound boring. I'm torn between these two options. If I say the former then girls was almost always ask something like: "What's romantic to you?". This leads to more of a flirty frame, but also potentially unnecessary over-gaming.
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Was this the right time to bait and make her qualify again like this? The condition I mentioned references the love language on her profile which was "pig latin". I tend to do this a lot mid-convo. I call-back facts and things I read on a girl's profile. Is this showing the girl the right kind of interest (that I'm paying attention to things she shared) or putting her off by over-investing?
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I absolutely hate this line, but I don't know of an alternative right now. Not sure whether I should be sarcastic here in this context e.g. include stuff like "hot air balloons, cheese platters, violinist" or cut down the line to "You and me splitting a bottle of wine in a chill spot with a nice view".
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yes redundant, also you don’t want to put the image of you bieng “armed” in her mind, even if it is an obvious joke
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honestly, it barely makes a difference. I think you’re overthinking it man
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It was ok. The issue wasn’t with “one condition though” but with the follow up
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I hate it too. Wvich is why I don’t use it. If it doesn’t sit well with you then you don’t have to use it bro
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- no it was a terrible time for what amounts to a very quick double-text. you get investment by shutting the hell up and making it clear that if she wants the party to continue she needs to reply to what you wrote the first time. the romantic date is the intrigue, not the one condition
3a. I've found profile callbacks to be shit because (1) you should barely have time to read profiles (2) you should never have time or reason to re-read a profile scrounging for more conversation topics and (3) there's a very real danger that she hasn't looked at her profile text for 6 months (why would she, she's neck deep in dudes offering dick) and doesn't really remember what's on it and now you're saying some stuff about pig latin?!
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you're working on "put yourself in the girl's shoes", as a chick what reply would you have made to the pepper spray line? if you scratch your head and say "don't know", now you're in the girl's shoes
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"romantic" is an acceptable frame setting word and it's simultaneously on point and ironically funny, as long as you're the master of your frame and don't let it be cringy
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you should cut it down starting with the softeners. "that sorta thing" telegraphs that you aren't confident in the line or the idea. "possibly" cuddles? own it, there are definitely going to be fucking cuddles on any romantic date I'm running
there are 50 versions of that line on here, keep tuning yours up. I think the "hot air balloons" route is a waste of an opportunity to just explain what's going to happen on your actual and inevitable date, position yourself as a man who can organise a straightforward good time
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