Feedback on 7 months of online dating.

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Yo, I bought a course from David DeAngelo aka Eben Pagan for online-dating. Who is sort of old school when it comes to game. My results are sort of meager, yet also in my region there are not many people to date. I live in a 100k city.

Basically, I re-evaluated today the whole experience and checked other guys profile the point is, I am generally looking better and I do have an advantage in the height departement as I am 6'3, I also have a good career going for me even if I am currently a student in IT. I looked at other guys profile I looked at approx. at 100 profiles in total from guys. They basically need some PWF advice. So, I have a clear advantage when it comes to online-dating even when they have higher status by occupation for example.

My text game improved the most after watching PWF content, also getting additional feedback from the community here was quite good. Basically my pictures are to posed and need more of a natural look. I will take new pictures with a professional quite soon. (1 week or 2) A friend sent me very good content on body language for pictures as well as PWF's content I looked through it. Made notes etc.

Basically I texted 1,2k to 1,3k girls on mainly two apps. OkCupid and Jaumo (German app) to learn online-game. I went through my results. I basically had 100 matches +-30. As well as 6-8 dates only and a total of 12 numbers. Basically I had 1% leads from texting 1,2k-1.3k girls. From these 12 numbers I had 6-8 dates. I had to do it online as this region is shit. So it was mostly via zoom. I only meet two girls physically, after the zoom/cam date. Which I think is insane and I had to drive an hour to get to both dates. Still 0 lays.

I did some wannabe statistics and I'd have to rate my profile in approx. the 65-60 percentile. As the frame is the worst issue.

The point is I had a decent amount of matches 5-15 per week. A lot of girls deleted me. Like a shit ton mostly on the same day, as I did a lot of c&c and I can be to offensive/arrogant, yet this is the most authentic part also which makes it high risk and high reward. Which was a lesson. I know the numbers don't add up, yet after 2-3 months I basically texted the entire OkCupid base of female users. My stack is consistently empty. Just to get good at online game. It's approximately correct. I counted how many women I messaged on Jaumo for instance as it's possible here and it's around 230 women.

All my dates gave me the same feedback a lot of fun and excitement, yet no connection. I basically can talk for hours which is insane for some people to handle and I am a strong introvert, so this happens mostly in 1 on 1 conversations.

My question basically is how do I display more value in pictures and how do I set the player frame/bad boy frame? (Listing sort of the most valueable thing about me)

 - I love reading
 - I love working out 
 - I love meditation
 - I like psychdelics
 - I like cycling, even if I do it rarely
 - I like adventure I lived and worked in China and England for a couple of months. Been to approx 12. countries and 4 continents.
 - I am 6'3
 - Potential strong career in IT
 

These are not very player frame activities. Besides working out, cycling and adventure. I also consistently hear "omg you are such a good looking and handsome guy from professors, family friends, friends, even some girls online messaged me like hey handsome or complimented my pictures. Still I have close to 0 success with women.

How can I set the player frame with my activities do they even display value? What I want to do for the shooting is.

  • Haircut
  • Using a couple of shirts that look well, different outfits.
  • Player frame positions and make them look naturally for example the "eyes focused headshot position"
  • Make a picture reading some book that displays higher value like the intelligent investor
  • In general natural player frame positions, masculine and authentic not posed.
  • Picture where I pour in a glass of wine
  • Showing the photographer all of the positions and ask her to focus that they look masculine and not posed, basically saying I want more player frame pictures for additional feedback.

I can't really post pictures doing psychedelics, meditation might look to neutral or to "devoted" not confident and ambitious as well as masculine enough. Even though if you ever did zazen it's a highly masculine activity if you are familar with David Deida's work.

Any other ideas to display more masculine features in pictures? I don't have sunglasses. I don't own a suit. I do have a wristwatch to display some awareness around fashion/status.

Would that set the player frame? I know it's a lengthy question, I'd highly appreciate competent feedback.

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5 Posts (+12), 34 Cmts (+7)

cheapest way to get that player look is haircut and adding some accessories to your style. Just buy few cheap bracelets and necklaces, even rings, and have them on display in your photos.

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7 Posts (+2), 15 Cmts (+2)

Thanks the braclet is a good idea. 👍

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40 Posts (+22), 151 Cmts (+51)

No the rings and necklaces are.
Add in a watch.

You are thinking too much about what you’re displaying in your photos.

A good photo is a good photo but the idea of taking one reading is a big no.
Girls will more likely be why would he be taking a photo reading, they would know it’s posed.

Go to a bar, get a drink for you and the photographer talk a little bit and get him to take some photos in front of you sitting down or wtv

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