Out of 1000+ swipes, this is the only girl I've matched with that isn't 300lbs. She's actually quite attractive. I know 'abundance mentality' and all, but I don't want to fuck this up. I have terrible text game and have never had an actual date off Tinder, so I would appreciate any tips on how to steer this conversation. Her profile had 'hiking' as an activity and she had pics of her hiking with a dog, so that was my opener.
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These are some solid responses, many thanks. Unfortunately I got impatient last night and decided to reply on my own before these posts came in. I said "I have a really nice garden...does that count?"
I know, it's a shitty response. She hasn't responded yet, and it wouldn't surprise me if my response was so dull that she disengaged.
To your other point: I appreciate the positive vibes here. I don't ever want to be some hopeless blackpill doomer, but I think there is some merit to be observed there. Think about it. It took me 1000+ swipes on Tinder just to get a handful of matches (5). Of those 5, 4 were obese. I sent openers anyway, just because, and still got no responses. That means even obese chicks have enough clout/attention on Tinder that they don't feel the need to respond to me. It was pure luck I matched with a cute, regular-looking girl, but even she probably has 100 other guys crowding her inbox. No matter how you spin it, it the conversion rate is terrible at 0.1%. Even overweight, "plane Jane" girls get attention on Tinder but only guys who put in serious work can maybe achieve a conversion of 10%
And this goes back to the many of the points Alex says in his videos, which align with the whole "redpill" school of thought. You should always be improving yoursef. Hit the gym, make money, dress sharp, get a haircut, etc. And of course keep practicing your text game, verbals, and cold approach. It's an ongoung, active, process that never stops. Some people make it work and others don't. I guess the reason so many guys in the manosphere are frustrated, and many of them quit, is because of the thought that the juice isn't worth the squeeze or that it isn't "fair". Like a "Why do I have to do so much shit just to have a chance at getting laid, when girls and guys who look like Chris Hemsworth can do it effortlessly". But that goes into a whole different discussion about victim mindset.
Sorry, kind of ranting here. My main action item for this post it when should I resurrect this conversation if she doesn't respond, and how should I do it?
I sent the response last night at 10pm and now it's 1pm the next day and nothing from her. Should I re-engage her with a "Don't think too hard"
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Bro you need to let go of women and work on yourself. If you get a girl close enough to you she’ll be grossed out by this mindset and it WILL come out.
If you think it’s unfair then go gay or pick another life to live but whining ain’t gonna do anything positive and just turn off people that could help you.
Drop the girls and work on yourself. You probably would think I look like a Greek god and guess what? I still get 1 in 100 matches. You want easy pussy go to a third world country and pay for it. It will always be unfair. Go watch some hours of Andrew Tate if you want to look in the mirror and be proud of yourself but nothing is going to fall on your lap so toughin up. Best thing you can do is drop the girls at your point in life.
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Yup GA is speaking facts. He might sound harsh but its tough love.
Its never gonna be easy, Im in great shape and look good but still get ghosted all the time. Last month i accidentally matched with a fat-ish chick who i think is way below my league, still sent her a text since its good for tinder algorithem to messegge all ur matches and she didnt even respond. I didnt think "oh its so unfair" i just laughed and said it is what it is. My classmate is a legit 6ft3 roided up 9/10 Chad with good pics but has boring text game and girls will reply to 1-3 of his texts and then ghost him since they think he is just too boring. Its not easy even for Chads but if u work on urself and dont give up then u will see success for sure
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Do you normal pics or are you using selfies? Also what city are you in? That obviously is a big factor too
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I had a professional take my pics and I'd say they're decent enough.