I have multiple leads that I’ve kind of gone dead in the middle of the process. I’m having success meeting up with women hooking up with some but I feel like I’m leaving a lot on the table any thoughts on these? So inner game wise I know that on some of these I’m doing too much texting or saying too much I just don’t wanna come across as robotic and I feel like I’m interjecting my personality maybe I’m looking at it the wrong way
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Yeah man, I'm seeing a lot of suboptimal closing. Also, you're still using the "Let's hop on a quick call" line which I told you is not a good thing to use. For example for Ve, it sounded like the conversation was going really good and then you drop the call thing. Their was no soft close, it just went straight from banter to "let's talk on the phone". If you just follow the closing principles I've outlined in the product, you will significantly have more success. In addition, after she didn't respond to the call request you tried to move her to Instagram. This is bad for two reasons. First of all, you're responding to her lack of compliance by asking for more compliance. That's the opposite of what you want to do. Secondly, you don't want to waste time moving online dating leads to Instagram. It's phone number or nothing.
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So I got the whole let’s hop on a quick call thing from the endless options product. The only reason I use it is I’ve had some success once I get them on the phone. That being said definitely there’s room for improvement. How would you transition smoothly to ask him for the number? Also it just seems so odd to me that if you’re having a nice banter that you can’t just hop on a phone call I guess what I’m curious about is what are these women expecting? Do they want to text buddy that just stays online with them for weeks? I’ll go back and review the product
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The Endless Options product is total dogshit man. Take a look at the video I did comparing their bio with mine. Their definitely are more optimal ways to get a girl on the phone, I would say once a conversation is going and you have a good back & forth AND you already have gotten her to invest and move her to text. Then you can ask what she's up to. If she's free, you can say something like "Let's chat on the phone for a minute or two, so I can make sure you're not a 300lb black guy"
That being said, phone calls are largely unnecessary. It's 2020 man, it's not so much that the girls want a text buddy. It's more that they're worried they're gonna get stuck in a conversation with someone who is socially awkward and so they take the path of least resistance and not respond. It's the same exact reason I ignore the myriad of requests I get to talk on the phone about this or that. I only agree to phone calls with people I know or like in real life. & situations where I feel their is a high potential benefit for me (Business opportunity, hot chick, etc)
Go through the closing chapter in detail man. Or you can watch the video I have on YouTube on this. It's called something like "5 Steps to setting up a date" Your closing is very suboptimal right now, and if you just change this one thing you will notice significantly better results.