While I might be able to salvage this, I made mistakes that probably cost me a date. First off, I would like to say that I can't really follow the PWF strategy to a tee because I am currently at home with my parents at 25, and we have a dog and Ring security cameras that would make bringing any girl here uncomfortable if they're away. Secondly, I'm a virgin, so that puts unnecessary pressures on me. I'm on the apps to change that, but I've been meeting more relationship-type women. I am fine with that as that's kind of what I prefer, but I feel like I set myself up for failure when I do. Finally, I feel the need to set up coffee dates because I've always been under the impression that going out for drinks implies you want to hookup right after. I also have never sat at a bar or been to a club. Again, I don't mind that but I also don't mind going slower and not rushing things. Then again, I might be in the minority here. I am open-minded and am no longer as rigid as I was in years past. My style has improved somewhat over the last year, I've been going to the gym, and my bio on the apps (Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, Facebook Dating, CMB) has been improved. But my pictures need work. I think the pictures not only repel girls, but make the ones who do match with me flake because I don't look like Drake or show that much charisma in them. They aren't bad, but I'm not standing out with them and they could be better. Without further ado, I'd like to attach the conversation. I wonder if I can salvage this. My initial thought is to do drinks during the week after work, but as I said, I've never been to a bar before and I'm not planning on any kind of hookup because my place is too far away and is essentially a prison.
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Dude before I even get into this text review. Get your own place. You're 25, time to grow up. I am sorry if that is harsh but figure it out man.
Also you need to watch more of Alex's content and buy his product. Your mindset is terrible. Everyone is a work in progress some have better SMV than others but everyone has something they bring to the table. Be confident about that to start with. Inner game needs a lot of work. As far as virginity, just go for trying to get rid of it. My first time was when I was 16 and it was awful, no one fucks like a porn star their first time. Just find a girl you are interested in a pursue it.
It also feels like you are going to get set up for the nice guy / provider type guy which is not ideal. It almost feels like you don't really want to follow the proven methods.
Regarding the texting, you will want to watch more of alex's content. Don't tell a girl you watched 3 movies for your weekend plans. That would have crushed you with a high % of girls who would have thought that was lame. I personally don't have a problem with that being your actual weekend but just tell a girl you watched one movie last night or stick to one of Alex's lines like "just got a killer workout in, looking sharp for our romantic date" or "met up with some old friends for dinner @ _______(some cool local resturant) last night."
Also not sure why you double texted and asked for a phone call. it seems super out of place. Lastly alex told you on the last video when you asked about the 9am date not to set a date before 6pm.
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It's also kind of tough to be flirtatious and sexual in a conversation when you're never like that in the first place. I want to, but even after watching the videos Idk how to do it on a place like Hinge.
Like do I joke about my job here? I'm not a sexologist or massage therapist or anything. Just an engineering technician
It's gotten to a point where my only hobby now is reading and obsessing over dating for the most part. So by default I'm boring. I just want everything to "click" for me one day but it hasn't happened yet.
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okay lot to respond to in your 2 posts.
for this response. I'd use one alex's lines, "I'm in engineer by day and an aspiring world's greatest cuddler by night."
you just created sexual tension and flirtiness right there in that one response. She will probably say something flirty back and you can play off of that or ask her something flirty about what she does.
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Yeah I get what you're saying. I'll be honest, I've watched almost all of Alex's videos at least once, and I go back to some for reference. But I deleted the apps a few months ago because I wasn't making any progress and didn't get dates out of using them (and I paid over $70 for premium/platinum).
So with going from unemployed to getting a new job and a couple of new pictures (that are only slightly better than what I have), I thought I'd give it a shot. And it seems like I'm doing a little better with matches, particularly on Hinge (I haven't gotten more than 10 likes on Tinder) since I started 3 weeks ago.
Living with my parents is detrimental, but I get to save a shit ton of money. I told myself I'd move out in the late spring/early summer, but after being treated the way I have been on these apps by girls like her who see me as a beta male, I think I'm going to push it forward. I make more than enough money to move out, but the rent around here is pretty funny. That's why I haven't been following the method. Because it won't work for me right now. I live in a suburb, 20 minutes outside of the city. I can't go to a bar and walk home. It's funny though because my coworkers are saying I'm doing the smart thing by saving money living at home, but I feel like when it comes to dating, it's the stupid thing to do.
Now with the movies thing. You're saying I was over sharing? I thought that by showing that I did more than just watch paint dry, that would be considered a DHV. Particularly with the movies I did watch. And on the friends thing, I basically have none. They're all in different states or we don't talk anymore. But the killer workout line is always a classic and I need to use it more, especially because I do go to the gym.
Again, the phone call thing was partly because I saw AMS recommend that you call a girl before a date, and also because I had to cancel because I legitimately have issues with my car. I thought it would be better explaining that over a phone call where we can hear each other's voices than over text.
And yes, setting a 9am date and being squeezed in on a Sunday was a mistake, that was me who asked the question on the live stream
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It depends on what you want. You can be frugal, save money and go on dates and live in your decent apartment depending on where you live. You also don't have to start at the nicest place in the heart of the city. Try to get somewhere within 10-15 mins of the city and get an apartment there that is moderate but in a decent area. Get 1 roommate for a 2 bedroom.
The movie thing just sounds like a lame weekend to me. I have had those weekend (or binge weekend on a netflix show I was obsessed over but don't tell girls that. I can promise you no girl thinks watching any amount of movies is a DHV. You would be much better off with one of the two lines I shared. Or depending on the weather in your location you could say you came from a cookout where you were grilling with some friends earlier or you went on a hike in the morning with a buddy. Those tend go over well as responses.